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Forsaken
Special Ops
July 24th, 2010 @ 12:28AM
Registered:
2003-10-30
Location:
San Francisco, CA
Posts: 566
| Amazing work.
Fors
#114
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Jeff
Diablo Fan
July 24th, 2010 @ 9:26PM
Registered:
2003-06-03
Location:
IL
Posts: 443
| Very cool, I liked the campaign video. |
what316
Shithead
July 25th, 2010 @ 3:55AM
Registered:
2003-03-26
Location:
TX
Posts: 964
| It`s extremely whack that blizz won`t allow pre-downloads to activate until 10AM PDT on release day. Then again I don`t think I`m going to stay awake for a midnight release. |
mad_dog1
Marine
July 25th, 2010 @ 5:32AM
Registered:
2003-03-26
Location:
Germany - Destroying legends one post at a time
Posts: 583
| glad to have the CE. so i can watch all the extra stuff before launch. |
Blazer
Instigator
July 25th, 2010 @ 6:22AM
Registered:
2003-09-04
Location:
Syracuse, NY
Posts: 1819
| Doing the midnight release. Man, I've never been this excited for a game. Followed it almost daily since the announcement over 3 years ago. |
Frimzy
Marine
July 25th, 2010 @ 6:24AM
Registered:
2005-11-29
Location:
Posts: 84
| Nebu just to make sure, if I preoredered a BOXED copy (years ago) and pick it up at a MIDNIGHT release. I would be able to play SINGLE PLAYER at 12:01 AM Eastern Time on Tuesday? |
airety
Marine
July 25th, 2010 @ 11:01AM
Registered:
2003-03-29
Location:
Posts: 119
| I'm doing the digital download Tuesday after work. I considered doing midnight release, but I wouldn't really have time to play before work.. I'm really happy Blizzard went with a digital download option!
Nebu (or anyone else)- beta was a big hodgepodge server, but is release going to US East/US West? I will definitely post my name + id, and would be happy to play with anyone! |
RyanS
Marine
July 25th, 2010 @ 1:38PM
Registered:
2003-03-26
Location:
Michigan
Posts: 154
| Is this going to run any better than the beta?
It ran too slow for me on my current PC, and I`m not planning on upgrading any time soon. :( |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
July 25th, 2010 @ 2:42PM
Registered:
2003-03-20
Location:
Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| You can play it Monday night if you get it. |
Ultimaswc3
Peon
July 25th, 2010 @ 5:00PM
Registered:
2008-11-22
Location:
Posts: 24
| Is it just me, or is there a hidden joke in the single player overview video when it shows raynor and the female doctor. "If you play your cards right..." |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
July 25th, 2010 @ 5:13PM
Registered:
2003-03-20
Location:
Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| haha. There are several choices in the single player. I'm not sure, but I hope you can go back and try the other choices. Maybe with cheat codes? I don't know exactly how that works. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
July 25th, 2010 @ 8:12PM
Registered:
2003-05-08
Location:
OHIO
Posts: 2203
| Took a week off of work for this. Going to be playing all night come midnight. I'll be Ezareth on Battlenet, I was Rank 1 Diamond League when beta closed.
My receipt for my original reservation is from 5/18/07. It's been a long time! |
Frimzy
Marine
July 25th, 2010 @ 9:56PM
Registered:
2005-11-29
Location:
Posts: 84
| "My receipt for my original reservation is from 5/18/07." It`s been a long time! |
GroverDill
Special Ops
July 26th, 2010 @ 2:02AM
Registered:
2003-04-09
Location:
your mom's house
Posts: 802
| I still haven't played the first one. |
Zelph01
Marine
July 26th, 2010 @ 5:03AM
Registered:
2005-06-20
Location:
Posts: 648
| I suspect that at least a few Koreans will die from prolonged time in front of the computer.
I`m also sure a few Koreans will also die from fan death because they`ll be using their fans to drown out the noise of neighbors who don`t have headphones...
|
Constrictor
Marine
July 26th, 2010 @ 8:34AM
Registered:
2003-06-08
Location:
Bridgewater, NJ
Posts: 159
| I'm probably the only person not getting it.
League of Legends is just too addicting. The twitchiness of SC2 is a bit off-putting for me, I'm getting old.
Now when Diablo III gets released, I'm taking 2 weeks off work! |
Wootah
non-leet
July 26th, 2010 @ 9:04AM
Registered:
2003-05-16
Location:
Utah
Posts: 1463
| How on earth are you guys able to take a week off for a game? Digital download all the way. I decided to start downloading it this morning so that I can activate it tonight.
Gonna blast through the missions, trying to do everything as hard as Possible, failing and trying easier modes, and then jump right into multi-player. |
cobsteele02
Marine
July 26th, 2010 @ 9:08AM
Registered:
2004-10-08
Location:
O'Fallon Missouri USA
Posts: 709
| Oh I can`t wait for midnight.
What a good time for my company to axe my entire division at work. Severance money and unemployment during the release of Starcraft 2. An American dream come true. |
Forsaken
Special Ops
July 26th, 2010 @ 10:04AM
Registered:
2003-10-30
Location:
San Francisco, CA
Posts: 566
| @ Wootah
I have quite a bit of vacation time saved up. If I wanted to take a few days off I totally could. :p
@ everyone else
My screen name will be "Fors" #114. Cya on battle.net!
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jdLordHelmet
Good is Dumb
July 26th, 2010 @ 11:57AM
Registered:
2003-12-22
Location:
Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1295
| I have never been much of a competitive RTS player, though I like to play with my friends. I never took the time to get good at them.
I am eagerly awaiting SC2 though, just for the single player. I love all Blizzard games like no other developer. |
Smokin Joe
Marine
July 26th, 2010 @ 1:24PM
Registered:
2006-06-10
Location:
The Land of Chocolate
Posts: 2240
| just replace SC2 with Twilight and...
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Macavity
Peon
July 26th, 2010 @ 2:24PM
Registered:
2005-04-16
Location:
Posts: 105
| I just got a notice that my Starcraft CE was just shipped by mail. It will arrive either tomorrow or the next day. I can`t wait to play! I`m a gold/platinum Zerg player (whose been rising very rapidly in the ranks). I expect to be in Diamond pretty soon.
Charkoth, could you do me a favor? Could you save your replays and upload them? I have an older friend who just started playing Protoss on Phase II. He is Silver League quality. I would love to show him your games as it will help him improve. |
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Peon
July 26th, 2010 @ 4:55PM
Registered:
2003-11-17
Location:
Canada
Posts: 29
| currently Bivrip is sitting in line at a future shop near our place waiting to get a CE version of SC2. He insisted on it because he has the CE of each blizzard game since they started making CE`s.
I may drive by tonight and laugh at him on my way home from work..... |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
July 26th, 2010 @ 5:09PM
Registered:
2003-05-08
Location:
OHIO
Posts: 2203
| I haven't taken vacation since the release of Wrath of the Lich King a year an a half ago, I have quite a bit saved up, I took two weeks off to play The Burning Crusade when it was released.
Macavity, I've been uploading them to a Gmail Documents Folder but since those are Beta they won't work any more.
I'll probably have single player beat sometime tomorrow or Weds. then after that it is nonstop Multiplayer!
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what316
Shithead
July 26th, 2010 @ 6:24PM
Registered:
2003-03-26
Location:
TX
Posts: 964
| Try to find a girl in the release party photos. It`s like playing with a Where`s Waldo book. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
July 26th, 2010 @ 9:26PM
Registered:
2003-05-08
Location:
OHIO
Posts: 2203
| There was one at our release.....and she was worth any 3 men there....literally ) =
I picked up a guide and my collectors edition. The guide has a ton of useful information and unit stats.
Just finished my install, won my first 5 placement matches(Platinum) and am now about to spend the night on the single player campaign.
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BiVRiP
General
July 26th, 2010 @ 9:47PM
Registered:
2003-05-11
Location:
Canada
Posts: 1879
| Success! Just got home after standing 6h in line for a collector's edition copy. Installing now...good times.
So many funny moments. For example, a guy orders a pizza and the driver pulls up to the front of the store. The car is maybe 15 feet or so from the guy in line. Driver doesn't want to get of the car. Kid doesn't want to leave the line (and risk losing his spot). Everyone is watching this exchange and busting a gut. Finally after some back and forth they agree to meet halfway. Priceless, too bad I didn't have a video camera.
The group of people in front of me (including a decent looking Asian chick) camped out for 30h to make sure they were first in line when the doors opened. If that wasn't crazy enough, they told me they weren't even getting a collector's edition, just a regular copy. When someone asked them why wait in line instead of downloading the game they said "We're here for the swag".
P.S. I'm using the same in-game nick as this website (Bivrip).
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bshido
Peon
July 26th, 2010 @ 10:35PM
Registered:
2003-07-08
Location:
Washington
Posts: 256
| My name is Papercut , i got the CE :] |
LanceKiller
Peon
July 27th, 2010 @ 12:28AM
Registered:
2006-10-12
Location:
Anywhere they put me
Posts: 228
| My Starcraft II Name is Stryth
Anyone add me who is ok with playing with a total newbie. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
July 27th, 2010 @ 1:54AM
Registered:
2003-03-20
Location:
Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| When telling your names you need to include your code. I think it's on your profile in-game. If you don't include your code, it could be anyone as there can be 1000+ of your name. |
abev
Marine
July 27th, 2010 @ 3:04AM
Registered:
2009-02-25
Location:
Colorado
Posts: 1
| dizaztur 553 |
madbub
Peon
July 27th, 2010 @ 2:37PM
Registered:
2007-04-10
Location:
NE
Posts: 4
| xk bub
code 103 |
Disastrous Fate
General
July 27th, 2010 @ 3:43PM
Registered:
2004-02-09
Location:
Posts: 1012
| Still waiting for my shipment to come in...
GOD I WANT THIS SO BAD
If I could, I would cancel my shipment and just buy it in Gamestop or something.... As it is, I won`t get it until sometime next week (!!) |
ThE_WatcHDoG
Marine
July 27th, 2010 @ 3:46PM
Registered:
2003-03-28
Location:
Michigan State University
Posts: 117
| Spathic 199 |
RowdyRoddyPiper
Nut Job
July 27th, 2010 @ 4:27PM
Registered:
2003-06-20
Location:
Nashville TN
Posts: 1672
| i wont buy it til next friday. too many bills atm but i cant wait to play it. had a nice chomp of the beta and i enjoyed it alot. cant wait to see single player. I really reeally do hope it has a sound extractor avalable now or soon so i can change some of the sounds. like in sc1 i made the seige tanks have the transformers transforming sound. it was so cool. |
Wibin
Marine
July 27th, 2010 @ 4:43PM
Registered:
2004-03-20
Location:
Michigan
Posts: 920
| Ack, fail.
No extra money, or high speed internets to play with you guys. FML. |
Gruelon
Alien Baby
July 27th, 2010 @ 4:54PM
Registered:
2003-03-27
Location:
Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 12
| Gruelon 787
just got it installed and I am sure I will be terrible |
Kitsumex
Peon
July 27th, 2010 @ 5:48PM
Registered:
2010-06-11
Location:
Canada
Posts: 8
| Link 111 |
meorah
Marine
July 27th, 2010 @ 6:03PM
Registered:
2003-04-10
Location:
Posts: 494
| the awesome walmart register lady left the anti-theft device on, and it`s the kind that is wrapped in metal cable, so I had to track down my electricians snips to cut through it and then it started blaring out crazy smoke alarm sounds.
battery ran out after about an hour. I stuffed it under my mattress so I couldn`t hear it until it went off.
walmart is AWESOME! |
meorah
Marine
July 27th, 2010 @ 6:15PM
Registered:
2003-04-10
Location:
Posts: 494
| meorah 843 |
LanceKiller
Peon
July 27th, 2010 @ 7:20PM
Registered:
2006-10-12
Location:
Anywhere they put me
Posts: 228
| Alright
Stryth
Character Code is 378. I`m pretty Newbie |
bshido
Peon
July 27th, 2010 @ 7:29PM
Registered:
2003-07-08
Location:
Washington
Posts: 256
| My name is Papercut (702) ADD ME! |
Trickshot
Peon
July 27th, 2010 @ 9:15PM
Registered:
2006-10-22
Location:
Lansing, Michigan
Posts: 354
| Its been 10 years. Sorry if I cant get excited. |
Tapar
Posting Ninja
July 28th, 2010 @ 12:33AM
Registered:
2003-03-27
Location:
NH
Posts: 267
| Tapar 527 |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
July 28th, 2010 @ 1:06AM
Registered:
2003-03-20
Location:
Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| Getting my ass kicked on hard about 11 missions in. :( I suck at Terran. I play Protoss. |
Akebono
Marine
July 28th, 2010 @ 1:35AM
Registered:
2003-03-26
Location:
Posts: 104
| Uglie
702 |
meorah
Marine
July 28th, 2010 @ 6:17AM
Registered:
2003-04-10
Location:
Posts: 494
| So if you go back and replay a mission in the archives, do you keep your current upgrades or do you only use the upgrades you had when you first chose that mission?
On the "escort the people in the transport" level, I only got the 1 zerg research out of 3 available, probably because I took the advice of building bunkers at the 3 spots where zerg come from off the road. It wasn`t until after I slept on it that I realized it would be SOOOO much easier to just make an infantry ball and go explore between transports for the other 2 research points. |
keepersmith
Marine
July 28th, 2010 @ 7:30AM
Registered:
2003-10-01
Location:
Posts: 75
| Erasmas 763 |
Keyo
Peon
July 28th, 2010 @ 9:24AM
Registered:
2003-10-24
Location:
Posts: 14
| keyo.128 |
Thorinos
Peon
July 28th, 2010 @ 10:01AM
Registered:
2003-04-03
Location:
Quebec city
Posts: 14
| Thorinos #819 |
Wootah
non-leet
July 28th, 2010 @ 10:12AM
Registered:
2003-05-16
Location:
Utah
Posts: 1463
| I am using the same name(this one) as I used in beta and it gave me the same number. 981 |
doctorgonzo
Peon
July 28th, 2010 @ 10:43AM
Registered:
2007-05-30
Location:
Posts: 19
| raoulduke #820
obsessed!! ive found my game for the next 10 years |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
July 28th, 2010 @ 10:46AM
Registered:
2003-03-20
Location:
Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| Added everyone except the guy at the top with the space in his name and non working name. |
BiVRiP
General
July 28th, 2010 @ 10:54AM
Registered:
2003-05-11
Location:
Canada
Posts: 1879
| Bivrip #938
My ocd is starting to kick in again. I'm trying to get every achievement for the single player campaign :/ |
Zoner
Peon
July 28th, 2010 @ 2:36PM
Registered:
2003-03-26
Location:
Fairfield, California
Posts: 36
| Warzone #340
Lovin the game, hopefully i get better over time. |
Syn-tax
Premium
July 28th, 2010 @ 2:47PM
Registered:
2003-03-26
Location:
Winnipeg, MB
Posts: 127
| Syntax #933
Just finishing up the single player campaign to learn the new stuff before jumping online. |
Yibo
Marine
July 28th, 2010 @ 3:53PM
Registered:
2003-03-26
Location:
Posts: 215
| hackjob 431
Loved SC1, lovin this. |
Shark
Peon
July 28th, 2010 @ 4:07PM
Registered:
2003-03-26
Location:
Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 17
| Shark #954
Perfect... so many games are ruined in the sequel... soooo glad this retained that "classic starcraft" feel. |
justinr
Marine
July 28th, 2010 @ 5:51PM
Registered:
2003-04-13
Location:
Houston, TX
Posts: 118
| justinr : 416 |
JanMan
Peon
July 28th, 2010 @ 6:47PM
Registered:
2005-02-20
Location:
Edmonton
Posts: 57
| BigMoomin 225
Haven`t played an RTS in so long everything I do feels really awkward, as though I`m trying to play while drunk except I`m not :P |
bomberman
Marine
July 28th, 2010 @ 6:53PM
Registered:
2003-03-28
Location:
Texas
Posts: 161
| darkiguana
780 |
Gruelon
Alien Baby
July 28th, 2010 @ 8:02PM
Registered:
2003-03-27
Location:
Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 12
| Helpful hint, do the challenges, they help give you some tactics that aren't otherwise taught from playing just the Campaign. I know they are helping me, been way too long since I have played SC. |
Funkotron
Peon
July 28th, 2010 @ 10:29PM
Registered:
2003-12-10
Location:
Posts: 30
| Greyclaw #177 |
thae
Marine
July 29th, 2010 @ 12:51AM
Registered:
2006-12-10
Location:
Posts: 10
| Thae 738
This game has so many achievements; it's causing me to tackle the campaign in brutal. And it's brutal; I am barely winning the missions so far...
I love it! |
Disastrous Fate
General
August 1st, 2010 @ 1:39PM
Registered:
2004-02-09
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Posts: 1012
| killiastwo 701
I gotta say, I love the game, but the single player storyline was kind of a let down. I waited 12 years for this, and I feel like the got a comic book`s worth of story material.
Nebu.. I know you don`t have a lot of influence.. but please tell them to emphasize the story more in the expansions. Wings of Liberty barely had as much story as maybe a single campaign in SC, and the ending was less climactic. Honestly, aside from the ending cinematic of Zerg vanilla, this was the least climactic ending cinematic in the whole series. |
rosario
Peon
August 1st, 2010 @ 3:18PM
Registered:
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Location:
Posts: 10
| Creeb #835 |
Ykant
Special Ops
August 1st, 2010 @ 3:23PM
Registered:
2004-09-14
Location:
Chicago, USA
Posts: 173
| I took the plunge...
MisterBliss 340 !
I am HORRIBLE at this game. It`s quite impressive. It`s like, "alright, I`ve got a great economy going with some defensive units, I can build more troops... whoops, I died." |
rosario
Peon
August 1st, 2010 @ 4:16PM
Registered:
2010-01-13
Location:
Posts: 10
| Forgot to mention: if you`re a brazilian playing on the North America Region, just add me. Again: Creeb #835 |
madbub
Peon
August 1st, 2010 @ 4:51PM
Registered:
2007-04-10
Location:
NE
Posts: 4
| please change mine to just bub, 103. Add me 8] |
Macavity
Peon
August 1st, 2010 @ 5:12PM
Registered:
2005-04-16
Location:
Posts: 105
| I added everyone here except the one guy with the space in between the name.
Macavity
966
Contact me at any time. Though, if I am in the middle of a game, I will ignore you until the game is done. =)
I played Zerg through the beta but I`m currently in a switch to Terran. Zerg just isn`t that much fun. All the units are two dimensional and `spawn larva` gets old. |
AggieSpirit
Peon
August 1st, 2010 @ 5:45PM
Registered:
2004-12-09
Location:
Texas
Posts: 251
| TheVike #677 |
Darren
Red State Cowboy
August 1st, 2010 @ 7:08PM
Registered:
2004-08-30
Location:
Dallas, TX
Posts: 1145
| Hahahaha, this game's release killed my otherwise world leading guild... tonight's 25 man ICC Heroic farm run was filled with 11 people that didn't buy Starcraft. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
August 1st, 2010 @ 8:38PM
Registered:
2003-03-20
Location:
Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| Funny |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
August 1st, 2010 @ 8:50PM
Registered:
2003-03-20
Location:
Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| Added everyone above. I don't know what the point is yet. But when we can do a channel or clans I'll start a channel |
BiVRiP
General
August 2nd, 2010 @ 12:39AM
Registered:
2003-05-11
Location:
Canada
Posts: 1879
| Is there any way to organize your friends list? If there is I'm just not seeing it. It would be nice if you could tag/label people or put them into groups. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 2nd, 2010 @ 12:42AM
Registered:
2003-05-08
Location:
OHIO
Posts: 2203
| Name is Ezareth 631
I beat everything but the last mission on Brutal which is truly deserving of the name(I think it was a mistake to take out the air and leave the worms but we'll see). I only play protoss too so it's hard for me to play Terran well....plus I just KNOW is screwing up my protoss game.
I've also done every single player and campaign achievement except the last Brutal and the 8 hour normal mode which I have 3 more missions on and am well under the limit on. I'm going to finish the achievements up tomorrow and then it's time to start cranking some multiplayer.
These damn achievements are going to make me start playing every race ) = |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
August 2nd, 2010 @ 10:31AM
Registered:
2003-03-20
Location:
Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| DJNEWSTYLE:
"I picked it up at midnight and decided to take my flipcam. Here are a couple interactions with some of the people on the line, including a rant about twilight from someone who had been waiting in line for 6 hours:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjA9BOyOpxI" |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 2nd, 2010 @ 1:15PM
Registered:
2003-05-08
Location:
OHIO
Posts: 2203
| So I just spent 7.5 hours doing all 29 missions on normal and didn't get the achievement because I replayed a few missions. Wish they clarified that in the achievement )= |
BiVRiP
General
August 2nd, 2010 @ 3:17PM
Registered:
2003-05-11
Location:
Canada
Posts: 1879
| Assuming that achievement isn't broken, that's a pretty dick move on the part of Blizzard. Replays shouldn't count against you. You should be able to replay however many times you want with your best time going towards the achievement. I sincerely hope they fix that. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 2nd, 2010 @ 3:41PM
Registered:
2003-05-08
Location:
OHIO
Posts: 2203
| Well I have all the achievements but that one now.
Sad thing is you don't need to do all the missions, just beat the game. Some people have gotten it from doing 18 missions ) =
That's the route I'm going to take now. Reckon I can do it in under 5 that way.
BTW if anyone has any questions on the achievements let me know. I figured out quite a few tricks over the past week.
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airety
Marine
August 2nd, 2010 @ 4:16PM
Registered:
2003-03-29
Location:
Posts: 119
| Sanji 321 is my name.
I'm low plat/high gold player, I love playing 2v2 and 3v3 for fun. Zerg player. If you add me and want to play, don't be shy! I'm always willing to play with people on my level/better than me, and I'm willing to play a few games with bronze/silver players and help as much as I can if you are interested in improving. I can help you if you are terran/protoss too, I just don't like playing them as much :)
Just finished the campaign yesterday on hard, missed a bunch of achievements... last mission was tough! Took me like 5 hours to beat. Definitely looking forward to the story continuation with Heart of the Swarm.
My best tip for campaign: Make sure you get SCV upgrades in the armory, and I personally really liked getting the merc contracts. They spawn instantly once the CD is up (5 mins to start) so they are good for putting together a quick army, or reinforcing when the crap hits the fan.
And Charkoth: I took out the Nydus Worms pre-last machine and regretted not taking out the air instead. YMMV? :P Maybe it's grass is greener or something. |
airety
Marine
August 2nd, 2010 @ 4:17PM
Registered:
2003-03-29
Location:
Posts: 119
| PS New Poll Please!
What do you think of the SC2 Campaign?
Loved it!
It was okay...
Disappointment
I didn't get it (shunnn) |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 2nd, 2010 @ 4:29PM
Registered:
2003-05-08
Location:
OHIO
Posts: 2203
| Well I ended up going back to my Original campaign and dealing with the Nydus worms. I guess my attachment to mass battlecruisers doesn't work on this level. Banshees for the nydus worms and static seige tank + bunker defense did it although it was as close as possible.
The Relic had 3 hitpoints when it hit 100% at which point it became invincible.
One thing odd that I noticed on my normal playthrough with no nydus was at 98% or so Kerrigan with her old human portrait appear and said something like "you can do it or hang on Jim". It didn't happen in my brutal with nydus worm victory. Odd.
I've read online that if you go mass mind control devices on the air map it's easy since you can just mindcontrol mutas + broodlords which rape kerrigan. I didn't want to cheese my win so I just adjusted my strategy and stuck to it. Once I decided mass Banshees + let no nydus survive it only took me about 4 trys and no save reloads. |
BiVRiP
General
August 2nd, 2010 @ 6:48PM
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| Charkoth, did you say you bought the strategy guide as well? Was it worth it? I'm thinking of picking up a copy and seeing where I can refine some of my techniques. |
hjparcins
General
August 2nd, 2010 @ 8:02PM
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Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Posts: 980
| WTF this game is too fuckin' fast for me.
I played the campaign and loved it, then tried to play a coop game and was SORELY DISAPPOINTED when I found that it is played at like 200% speed with no option that I can find to choose "normal" speed. I knew I wouldn't want to play ranked matches because they're all super goddamn fast, but even the coop? Geez.
Why call it "normal" speed when "ludicrous speed" is the only real option?
How stupid. It's devolved into like 10% strategy and 90% muscle memory and reflexes. When I want to play twitch games I own dudes in Call of Duty. I had hoped an RTS would have a bit more strategy. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 2nd, 2010 @ 8:46PM
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| BivRip, I used it a little in the campaign for looking at maps on like two missions, the Strategies there are not that good for Brutal missions, but the multiplayer info looks pretty good.
For $20 if you're not tight on cash it's worth it I think so you can look at the guide instead of searching the internet.
Although I haven't played them yet I guess there is a set of challenges to "teach" you to transition between campaign and multiplayer.
Hjparcins the game really isn't that fast in multiplayer. Just play the campaign on Hard mode which is the same speed I think(I know Brutal is). Playing on Normal is slower and pretty damn boring IMO (which is why I'm pissed off that I have to burn through all these missions yet AGAIN).
I'm fairly fast but I'm not like amazing or anything, really the speed is in thinking more than acting fast. It's a good mental workout really. |
Macavity
Peon
August 3rd, 2010 @ 6:12PM
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| Here are some of my replays for getting Gold on several challenges (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IBPBWM5F). I would have put up the others but Starcraft 2 automatically deletes them. :(
Psionic Assault, Opening Gambit, and Rush Defense are included in the zip. I think Psionic Assault and Opening Gambit are the toughest to get on gold out of all the challenges. Maybe they will help someone out. |
what316
Shithead
August 3rd, 2010 @ 7:45PM
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2003-03-26
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TX
Posts: 964
| I`m 18 missions into Brutal. Will be doing the secret mission this time so I can just be Caj with my kerrigan portrait, assuming I don`t fail before the end of this road. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 3rd, 2010 @ 10:07PM
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| Took me a hair under 5 hours to do the 8 hour achievement this time. Much more bearable now that I've worked out all the tricks and only had to do 18 missions.
Key Techs to research are the Reactor, Psi Emmiter, Auto Vespene Gas, BioSteel.
Unit techs that are great are medic techs, all the base techs except the multiple SCV build speed, the seige tank techs(must have), viking techs if you plan on destroying ground on last missions, banshee techs if you plan on destroying air. (I advise destroying air and killing nydus with cloaked banshees)
Key Mercs are the Seige Tanks, Vikings, + Battle cruiser.
The banshees are great for the last mission.
Time to start cranking some multiplayer....although I do want to check out these "Challenges".
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Ykant
Special Ops
August 4th, 2010 @ 5:21AM
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Chicago, USA
Posts: 173
| Charkoth - you will probably breeze right through the challenges. I`ve gotten through about half, and I`m terrible. If anything, they seem to be geared to get me away from playing like it`s single player, and get me into a multiplayer mindset. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 5th, 2010 @ 8:24AM
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| Yeah I did them all last night. The only one that I didn't one-shot Gold on were the caster ones, the Terran and Zerg onces took me twice, and the Protoss one probably took me 15 times sadly considering it is my race.
The Protoss caster one is pretty fun, and challenging and it definately improved by caster knowledge and abilities.
The reason it took me so long is I didn't think to Feedback the banshees until one of my last tries and then it was much easier to beat. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
August 6th, 2010 @ 11:07AM
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2003-03-20
Location:
Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| Yeah I've never been a fan of the insane gameplay speeds that developed for Sc2. The last 2-3 game speeds were put as a joke or trick then they developed to be the default game speeds. |
justinr
Marine
August 6th, 2010 @ 11:31AM
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Houston, TX
Posts: 118
| I never got any friend requests. Are you supposed to see someone`s friend request? |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
August 6th, 2010 @ 2:29PM
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Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| There should be a little email like icon next to the number of people on battle.net for your friend requests. |
what316
Shithead
August 6th, 2010 @ 3:58PM
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Posts: 964
| Brutal isn`t so bad if you can beat hard. The final mission does require planning, but I found that armored bunkers with armory upgrades for capacity and range make pretty decent walls for the 4 chokes. The mind control tower is insanely good in the final missions, because you can grab ultralisks and give them a pocket medic. For the last mission I had ultra`s in front of my bunkers on Hold with a medic on hold behind the bunkers healing them which seemed to help a ton. For the few missions leading up to it, running with ultralisks in your army is beast, they are awesome tanks and you can easily pull them off the front line to get healed up. It may be an AI issue or something the zerg units seemed to favor targeting my regular terran army and letting the ultra`s chomp down their forces unless I had one way out in front. |
rosario
Peon
August 7th, 2010 @ 9:05AM
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| On the last mission on hard I created another starport and factory and put like 3 bunkers at each choke + 5 or so tanks + scvs + zerg slow down building; lots of turrets on mineral lines and on the artifact cliff and then began my unstoppable fleet composed of battlecruisers + vikings + science vessels that would be roaming around helping out areas that needed more attention, killing kerrigan fast or even that flying monstrosity.
Just don`t forget to get lots and lots of scvs, because this map has a lot of minerals.
The science vessel was by far the most important unit on the game. Immortal fleets with them. |
Forsaken
Special Ops
August 7th, 2010 @ 9:08AM
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2003-10-30
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San Francisco, CA
Posts: 566
| I just checked this thread after the longest time.
Woops, so we need to post our number as well?
Fors
#114
There we go. I feel less like a noob now. |
Disastrous Fate
General
August 7th, 2010 @ 11:44AM
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| I haven`t gotten any friend adds yet. I don`t know if there`s just something I don`t understand...?
As for the last mission, I actually used the things that slow zerg movement and attack speed in an area. I found that if you have two of those at both focal points, 2-3 bunkers filled with marines or marine mercs, and a bunch of tanks, you can handle the Nydus Worm version of the last level. I also recommend using Banshees to go out and eliminate the Nydus worms. I was using BC`s, but I think Banshees make a lot more sense.
Honestly, I did this, and it wasn`t *that* bad. The only times things got crazy were when Kerrigan attacked and like 3 nydus worms pop up at the same time towards the end. Then you really got to multitask to not lose momentum... |
LanceKiller
Peon
August 7th, 2010 @ 11:45AM
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Anywhere they put me
Posts: 228
| The arcade game is surprisingly fun. The controls seem a little stiff (especially going up and down) but still just really awesome. |
Frimzy
Marine
August 7th, 2010 @ 12:17PM
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| Karjala 876 add me for some practice. Also Nebu, how can you possibly be bad at Starcraft II? Go do Brutal. Try beating the last Protoss mission on Brutal. You will tear your hair out! :) |
ShazamazahS
Peon
August 7th, 2010 @ 1:31PM
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| UGottaSkate, 181 |
rosario
Peon
August 8th, 2010 @ 7:24AM
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| "I haven`t gotten any friend adds yet. I don`t know if there`s just something I don`t understand...?"
Well, you only receive friend invites when it`s a real id add (i.e. they added your email). When you add via name#code, the other people don`t know you have them on your list. You got to send a msg to them and ask to add...
I think it`s that way so you can whisper someone ingame or check his profile without him having to add you on his list. Adding someone to your friend list is the only way to do both things at the moment. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 8th, 2010 @ 6:46PM
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| Over 2200 Achievement points now. This is worse than World of Warcrack...damn achievements.
Just made Diamond since I started 1 v 1s. Been having a ton of fun on FFAs.
I'll be posting my replays to my google docs Replay Folder. That can be found here:
Replays
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LanceKiller
Peon
August 8th, 2010 @ 7:08PM
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Anywhere they put me
Posts: 228
| yeah Charkoth, that`s because these achievements are actually challenging and fun, not mindless and stupid like in WoW. |
hjparcins
General
August 8th, 2010 @ 10:30PM
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Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Posts: 980
| Yeah, definitely decided this game is too fast for me. Gonna wait for the impressive player-made campaigns, those are always a blast.
Meanwhile I'm playing League of Legends - pretty sick. |
Bruiser
Marine
August 9th, 2010 @ 5:42AM
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2003-03-27
Location:
Charlotte
Posts: 14
| bruiser
788
Thanks GF
I`m an old man. Got to top ~50 or so on Case`s Ladder for WC2 back in the day but now I have kids so I`ve played about 20 minutes in the week I`ve had the game. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 9th, 2010 @ 8:12AM
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| I wouldn't call the "Hurry Up it's raid night" achievement fun Lancerkiller but in general a lot of these are fun yes. I just beat all the 1 v 4 Insane AI achievements last night at 1:30 AM.
Hjparcins, the game isn't fast at all. Just play on Normal Mode... or play cooperative/custom games in normal speed. After playing a while you'll get the hang of it, trust me.
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LanceKiller
Peon
August 9th, 2010 @ 10:05AM
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Anywhere they put me
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| Bruiser Awesome!
I never find anyone who knows what Case`s ladder is or how old ladder matches use to work. |
Wootah
non-leet
August 9th, 2010 @ 10:43AM
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2003-05-16
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Utah
Posts: 1463
| Thanks for posting your replays Charkoth. Will watch them tonight after work.
I just beat all the 1 v 4 Insane AI achievements last night at 1:30 AM.
Can you post some of these too? I would greatly appreciate it. |
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Peon
August 9th, 2010 @ 2:22PM
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| Tomato #354! |
Disastrous Fate
General
August 9th, 2010 @ 6:23PM
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| I made the top league during the beta, but I just haven`t bothered with serious multiplayer competition since I bought the game. Since SC and WC3, custom games have always been my bread and butter. So far, I`ve been enjoying the DotA-like Storm of the Imperial such-and-so. It`s still early in development, but it`s surprisingly full-featured already. I`m sad that the Diplomacy and -good- Risk map from beta have yet to show up post-release, but I`m guessing we`ll see something good on that front sooner or later.
I`ll probably get back into melee multi eventually, but Victoria 2 (Paradox rules!) is coming out on Friday and I have a lot of work to do as well. For the next week or two, at the least, I doubt I`ll be playing more than an occasional melee match. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 9th, 2010 @ 6:42PM
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Posts: 2203
| Done. |
Benzo
Winnipeg Jets
August 12th, 2010 @ 3:22PM
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Winnipeg
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| benzo
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Syn-tax
Premium
August 18th, 2010 @ 3:02PM
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2003-03-26
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Winnipeg, MB
Posts: 127
| Haha! Great end to that replay. Laughed my ass off! |
Moxt
Kali Compton
August 18th, 2010 @ 7:02PM
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| Moxt.380 |
Frimzy
Marine
August 19th, 2010 @ 4:04AM
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| There are many Risk and some Diplo maps floating around but it is almost impossible to get to them. They are many tiers below the top 10 shown on the custom menu list. I gave up playing custom (My favorite thing about sc1) for now. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 19th, 2010 @ 12:40PM
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Posts: 2203
| After 40 games without a single victory in FFA with Zerg I finally won 2 games in a row. The good thing is play them that many times finally taught me their strengths and weaknesses and I've switched my team play in 2s and 4s to Zerg.
I've been having a blast with mass infestors....some really good games won using those infested terrans. |
Macavity
Peon
August 20th, 2010 @ 1:21AM
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| "Hopefully we can someday get a channel or clan."
When will this be? This comment section isn`t an easy way to communicate among ourselves.
Nebu, how about adding a starcraft 2 dedicated forum at the Kali Compton site? http://www.kalicompton.com/forum.php?
This way, we can set up games (when we aren`t on Bnet 2.0 at the same time), put up replays, give and take advice, set up teams, experiment with build orders, etc. etc. I`m willing to contribute on the content side of things. |
doctorgonzo
Peon
August 21st, 2010 @ 8:06AM
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| Just broke into diamond in 1v1 and 2v2 RT/AT! bragbragbragbrag
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/314858/1/raoulduke/
ya`ll should add me. i kinda would like to try searching 3s RT or 4s RT ladder in a party even though its total cheese to get my last two diamonds. raoulduke / #820
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AtlasJQ
Peon
August 23rd, 2010 @ 10:51AM
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2010-08-23
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Canada
Posts: 4
| I randomly ran into Katan in a 1v1 matchup yesterday and it was great to catch up with an old timer from the old Kali days. I figured I should throw my name on for those who remember me from Katan`s Lair and/or Maven`s Haven.
Atlas.481
Anyone else feel old when people explain what Maynarding is to new players having known him before he was a SC God? :P
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Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
August 25th, 2010 @ 6:36PM
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Posts: 2203
| Yeah I was going to comment on the guide. I've played over 1500 games of SCII and I've learned a ton from the guide. The campaign stuff isn't always the best advice but the multiplayer little tricks and tips are worth the $25 alone.
If anything it's the best bathroom material you'll ever buy. |
oinac
Peon
August 25th, 2010 @ 8:09PM
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2003-03-26
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Union City, CA
Posts: 193
| Oinac #243
Add Oinac to League of Legends too! |
MaDDice
Peon
August 26th, 2010 @ 9:25PM
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2010-08-26
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Texas
Posts: 2
| MaDDice 911 Long long time lurker (Since about 2000) Flame on! |
HappySmurf
Marine
August 29th, 2010 @ 7:38AM
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2003-07-19
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Virginia (As conservative as California is Liberal)
Posts: 243
| I FINALLY beat it on Brutal last night and got my Kerrigan portrait. That last mission was tough. I built a ton of those Hive Mind things around the artifact and near my minerals and just MC`d every mutalisk and broodlord I could. By the end I had about 18 Battle Cruisers, 30 Mutas and 20 Brood lords. They all had to stay clustered around the artifact as the rest of my base ended up getting destroyed in the last 10%. |
HappySmurf
Marine
August 29th, 2010 @ 7:41AM
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2003-07-19
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Virginia (As conservative as California is Liberal)
Posts: 243
| Oh! Does anyone know how to use all your same unit abilities at once? I know they have smart casting now, but it would`ve been helpful if I could just have all my battle cruisers fire the yamato cannon at once at Kerrigan rather than having to hotkey+click each time. I looked online and in the hotkeys in game and no luck. |
Blazer
Instigator
August 29th, 2010 @ 9:00AM
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2003-09-04
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Syracuse, NY
Posts: 1819
| Name = Blazur 983 |
rosario
Peon
August 29th, 2010 @ 7:04PM
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| HappySmurf, just use shift
that way is shift pressed + lots of clicks on kerrigan |
airety
Marine
August 29th, 2010 @ 8:26PM
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| Diamond 1s and 2s... when I posted I was gold, so hey- if you play and want to improve you will. My ZvT is a little rough still... I was almost up to 700 diamond and dropped to 500 :(
Nobody from EN has ever talked to me, I dunno if anyone has added me. Looking forward to chat channels! |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
September 1st, 2010 @ 6:22AM
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Posts: 2203
| Trying to finish off the Coop and Custom achievements so I can focus on my 1 v 1s. Over 3700 achievement points so far.
Getting Diamond seems to be getting even easier, my buddy and I made 2s Diamond with our team and he is terrible. I anticipate Blizzard removing the "Leagues" or drastically changing them in the future, they are pretty worthless.
Macavity is the only person here who has added me so far. |
Wootah
non-leet
September 1st, 2010 @ 7:31AM
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2003-05-16
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Utah
Posts: 1463
| Ezar...Charkoth!
I added you! I have a lot of players on my list that I would be totally embarrassed to ask to play with since they are high platinum or diamond.
We had a hilarious 4v4 game last night. Both of our protoss tower pushed each side of their bases On outpost... all while both their terrans were offensive bunkering each of our sides.
When noobs cheese eachother:
Double Double Tower Cheese
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Jeff
Diablo Fan
September 1st, 2010 @ 5:04PM
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2003-06-03
Location:
IL
Posts: 443
| I'm in bronze (probably should be silver) but I cannon rushed someone and won and found out after it was a platinum player, haha. That was awesome. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
September 1st, 2010 @ 9:05PM
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2003-05-08
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OHIO
Posts: 2203
| Didn't realize adding via code doesn't inform the person you add that they've been added. Add you Wootah. |
DarkShear
Marine
September 1st, 2010 @ 9:52PM
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2003-04-22
Location:
Seattle
Posts: 691
| I got screwed when I setup my bnet account. Didn`t realize I was setting it up! So I used my first name as my account name...and no way to change it. I thought I was just setting up my single player username...For sixteen years of internet gaming I`ve used DarkShear. In every game I play I have people who remember my username say hi. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
September 1st, 2010 @ 10:15PM
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2003-03-20
Location:
Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| Someday they'll let you fix that. |
Frimzy
Marine
September 2nd, 2010 @ 5:25AM
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2005-11-29
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Posts: 84
| I am a bit bored of bnet already. It seems like I am in The Void most of the time. I thought that by posting ids we would be able to chat and play but no one really messages. It just doesn`t feel social at all. Fortunately there is Steam overlay and I can talk to players from other regions. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
September 2nd, 2010 @ 12:01PM
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2003-03-20
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Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| Yeah it feels like you're in the void alright. I hate having to beg for partners. We use IRC for games. Hopefully we can get some chat channels soon. I don't know how long we have to wait. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
September 2nd, 2010 @ 2:15PM
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Posts: 2203
| Well if anyone has added me send me a message some time so I can add you back. Part of the problem is it is a 1 way street.
If anyone wants to burn some Coops Vs. AI sometime let me know and message me in game after adding me (Ezareth 631). I have all my streaks done but still need the 250 wins. Double protoss is the guaranteed quickest win.
I can also help anyone if they have any quick strategy questions, I know all of the races inside out now and all the tricks and counters, if not the timing exactly for Terran and Zerg.
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Wootah
non-leet
September 2nd, 2010 @ 2:54PM
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2003-05-16
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Utah
Posts: 1463
| Frimzy,
Man Sorry. I have like 45 friends, and there are always 12-13 people to play with. I always try to hit up new people but my RL friends and Kali friends are also asking me to play.
I would LOVE to have a channel where we could all meet together and hang. I added a few people in here and plan on keep adding people on evenings where there are new. I wish I had more time to play. |
Sikpup
Kali Compton
September 2nd, 2010 @ 3:11PM
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2003-07-06
Location:
New York
Posts: 25
| Feel free to add me:
Sikpup.373
Diamond 1v1 and 2v2, but I really feel like I am not that good... would love some more people to game with. |
Frimzy
Marine
September 2nd, 2010 @ 6:00PM
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| Yeah I mean just a little about myself. I`ve been around since AOWL days (you know you are old school if you know what that means) and have been following GF since before where he works now. We`ve always had great communities where we discussed how to best play War2 on a 28.8 connection, who can make the best Peon voice and strategies too. Unfortunately most of my friends play on EU servers and we cannot communicate (outside of Steam). Do PM me for some practice. I am falling asleep looking at the same top 10 custom games. It`s Karjala-876 - much appreciated! |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
September 5th, 2010 @ 12:00AM
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2003-05-08
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OHIO
Posts: 2203
| I've uploaded a ton more replays of some decent games included some FFAs, including a couple With Katan which I won one and lost one.
They're all on my Google docs folder linked in an earlier post. |
Blazer
Instigator
September 7th, 2010 @ 5:38AM
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2003-09-04
Location:
Syracuse, NY
Posts: 1819
| Always up for team games. Feel free to hit me up, and if I'm not currently in a game I'll gladly join.
GG'ing with you the other day, neb. |
Disastrous Fate
General
September 7th, 2010 @ 6:37AM
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| Sorry I haven`t added anyone yet. It`s a real pain in the ass. I`ll try to pull this off sometime this week. |
Macavity
Peon
September 12th, 2010 @ 7:30AM
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| Since this thread is so big, I`ve compiled a list of everyone. If your name isn`t here because I missed it or you haven`t posted your name yet, post it and I`ll add it to the list.
Atlas #481
benzo #381
BigMoomin #225
Bivrip #938
Blazur #983
bruiser #788
bub #103
Creeb #835
darkiguana #780
dizaztur #553
Erasmas #763
Ezareth #631
Fors #114
Greyclaw #177
hackjob #431
justinr #416
Karjala #876
keyo #128
killiastwo #701
Macavity #966
MaDDice #911
MisterBliss #340
Moxt.#380
Oinac #243
Papercut #702
raoulduke #820
Sanji #321
Shark #954
Sikpup #373
Stryth #378
Syntax #933
Tapar #527
Thae #738
TheVike #677
Thorinos #819
Tomato #354
Uglie #702
UGottaSkate #181
Warzone #340
Wootah #981 |
doctorgonzo
Peon
September 12th, 2010 @ 11:49AM
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| For anyone interested, I`ve indexed all of my saved replays since release day on teh webs:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10354013/duke%20sc2replays.html
raoulduke #820 - My b.net profile |
Disastrous Fate
General
September 12th, 2010 @ 6:02PM
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2004-02-09
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Posts: 1012
| Macavity - you just won yourself 1 Internet to be redeemed at a date and time of your choosing.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/you-win-the-internet
Thanks! |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
September 12th, 2010 @ 10:05PM
Registered:
2003-03-20
Location:
Irvine, CA
Posts: 3628
| Macavity: Thanks. I've added everyone on the list. SOMEDAY we'll get a clan/channel before we die. I'm doing 4v4s at nights. I'll send out a broadcast. |
keepersmith
Marine
September 14th, 2010 @ 1:12PM
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2003-10-01
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| I am up to Platinum in 2v2.
Look me up for any 2v2/3v3/4v4.
Erasmas.763 |
Wootah
non-leet
September 14th, 2010 @ 10:31PM
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| 8v8 protoss and not a single colossus the whole game? Or Psi storm? Man. You guys wiped out pink first and he was probably one of their better players.
Hilarious that the 2v4 guys talked so much smack, even asking computer to leave right at the beginning.
But they did make a good point. If a player leaves, his probes continue to harvest, splitting it between each of the remaining players. I HIGHLY suggest that in future games, if you wanna ramp your producting fast, take the leavers money and reinvest it back into more workers and static defense. In your case green's income was split between the remaining players (orange already being dead). It would probably have been good to make 5 more probes with that and then maybe a few cannons. so you don't have to micro much against reapers or other crap harass. |
Shaft3205
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September 15th, 2010 @ 9:55AM
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| Shaft
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Longtime lurker |
DarkShear
Marine
September 21st, 2010 @ 2:09AM
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| So what the heck was so wrong with the old Bnet gaming system with channels and such for clans and friends? Oh that is right, nothing. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
September 21st, 2010 @ 9:44AM
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| yeah wouldn't that be nice. Maybe I could get more team games. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
September 24th, 2010 @ 9:00PM
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| Congrats Sixen on the MVP! |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
October 1st, 2010 @ 3:54PM
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| Sixen posts on here, and Excalibur_Z is Kali Compton, unbknownst to most. He was the official War3 Whore, taking the title from Silverwolf in the sequel.
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WaCKSteVeN
Marine
October 1st, 2010 @ 4:59PM
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| wacksteven
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ROBOKATZ
Marine
October 1st, 2010 @ 5:17PM
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Melbourne, FL
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| I`m Bob #1238. I`m terrible so I mostly play 4v4 where the teammates pick up the slack. |
AtlasJQ
Peon
October 1st, 2010 @ 6:14PM
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| Im always up for some 2v2s w the expectnothing people. Msg me anytime Im on and I`ll be game. |
ThE_WatcHDoG
Marine
October 4th, 2010 @ 7:23AM
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| posting it again, since it got missed the first time...
Spathic
#199
up for a game anytime... |
HeatAttack
Marine
October 6th, 2010 @ 2:49PM
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| HeatAttack #256
Mass Phoenix is a good strat if they know how to use it.. Gravaton beam workers and they die in 2 hits from other phoenix, most other ground forces die just as fast.. A click then mass spam the grav beam starting with important units and working your way down.. Great for taking out all their workers if they dont have AA around the minerals, and great as part of an attack force with your other teammates. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
October 6th, 2010 @ 4:56PM
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| Yes but this kid had none of those skills. He did try it a little but from what I saw, he was getting nowhere. |
DualCycle
Peon
October 7th, 2010 @ 11:45AM
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| SVN
#153
Mass phoenix is a terrible terrible strat. :) |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
October 7th, 2010 @ 11:47AM
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| A lot of units you can't even lift up. |
redgeopower
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October 10th, 2010 @ 6:54AM
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| Gygax.499
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Macavity
Peon
October 25th, 2010 @ 8:24PM
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| I watched the replay of the game we played, Nebu, and you did well. Better than our allies. Dealing with mass mutas as protoss is tough (that other guy going mass immortals didn`t help).
I`ve been trying to learn random lately, and protoss is my weakest race. I played Zerg during beta and Terran right after release. If anything, I cannot wait for the custom hotkeys as they are going to be a godsend to random players.
I`ll repost the updated EN.com member list once the chat channel update hits. |
Sixen
Special Ops
October 26th, 2010 @ 3:48PM
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| Yooo, i`m Sixen#935 if you want to add me. Pretty sure you had me during the Beta as well.
Totally didn`t know Excali was KC, got a chance to meet him at the Convention IRL. Pretty awesome dude.
And a little late, but thanks Charkoth, ;). |
Cham
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October 27th, 2010 @ 10:37PM
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| Cham#752
Yay |
Trainwreck
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November 7th, 2010 @ 2:12PM
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| Bit late, but...
Trainwreck #947 |
Blazer
Instigator
November 30th, 2010 @ 5:05PM
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| Getting back into this game after a hiatus, thanks to Fallout:New Vegas. Let me know if you're up for some team games. |
oinac
Peon
November 30th, 2010 @ 7:10PM
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| I just added everyone on the big fat list and below. 2s 3s or 4s I`m down. |
undreaming
Kali Compton
February 15th, 2011 @ 2:32PM
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| A disappointing patch. No balance changes. Colossi are still OP (and I'm a toss). Roach and Marauder are still not fixed.
Whatever.
The previous patch wasn't too bad, though. |
BiVRiP
General
February 20th, 2011 @ 4:47PM
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Canada
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| For anyone interested, here's an updated list of everyone who's posted their SC2 name in this thread. Apologies if I missed anyone.
LINK
Updated as of 2/20/11. |
ReaverSC
Peon
March 22nd, 2011 @ 4:42PM
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| I don`t know what`s wrong with me, but it really bothers me that not only am I not into Starcraft 2 I have to admit that I don`t really like it.
Starcraft was my life when I was a kid. Serious. I played it all day and night in my teenage years. I took second place at one of the first tournaments held for the game in San Francisco where I got to meet Bill Roper. My senior year in high school, my yearbook labeled me as the "Starcraft Kid".
If feels dull and uninspired. After buying it, I got to platinum in all the brackets without really trying and then just stopped playing. A couple patches ago when they made it mandatory for you to build a supply depot before a barracks was the final nail in the coffin for me. Seriously, they couldn`t think of any other way to balance the game then to force everyone to use the same build order? Boring. Went back to WoW and Team Fortress 2 shortly after. |
Wootah
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March 23rd, 2011 @ 8:43AM
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| That is a sick list BivRip, Thanks!
I will definitely be on more once I get out of school.
Sorry to see you lose interest reaver. I really feel like B.net 2.0 crippled the game. It could have been so much better, and yet it stalled the game by a year. It almost makes me wonder if blizzard used b.net 2.0 and the stall time purposely to minimizet he impact SC2 had on WoW. (released right before an expansion, and far less control over UMS maps and hosting). |
hjparcins
General
August 5th, 2011 @ 6:01AM
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| Any suggestions for co-op custom maps? My buddy just got this. Game is way too fast for me in general population multiplayer, but I'd love to get into some custom co-op campaigns or even just really well made 2vCPU maps.
Also, any well-made custom single player campaigns yet? |
Wootah
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October 12th, 2011 @ 8:25AM
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| I'd guess the new zerg unit burrows, probably moves while burrowed, and can shoot stuff out of that big sack on its back. Now if it can shoot while burrowed... |
Istari
Kali Compton
January 9th, 2012 @ 1:36PM
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| Awesome Hyperion. Check out the guy's other images he has some cool stuff |
Disastrous Fate
General
April 27th, 2012 @ 2:40PM
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| Honestly, I love Starcraft 2. I think it's easily the best traditional RTS ever made. The interface is silky smooth, the single-player is fun, the standard multiplayer is spot on, and the UMS multiplayer is as good as ever. It's also a blast to watch really good players go at it.
The only downside to it, for me, is that the single player story was an absolute joke. Terrible, terrible stuff. Only about 1/3rds of the missions even had a minor connection to the overall arc. Compare this with SC1, where pretty much every mission played some central role (especially ignoring the Zerg campaigns, which were sorta story light anyway). |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
April 27th, 2012 @ 9:11PM
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| That google thing is sweet.
90 Count
279 APM
I think I have an advantage from my over-sized monitor and resolution though.
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Bashkir
Special Ops
July 31st, 2012 @ 4:40PM
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| 1.5 is terrible. Very buggy. I've lost connection to BNet twice already (in 3 games) and it lags a lot. It never did this before. |
ReaverSC
Peon
July 31st, 2012 @ 5:10PM
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| I`m ignorant Charkoth, what google thing? |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
September 5th, 2012 @ 11:54AM
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| Do a search for "Zerg Rush" in Google ReaverSC.
Beg Beg...Beg. |
justinr
Marine
September 5th, 2012 @ 12:18PM
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| Previous Master level season 2 player coming for teh begs. |
Mantaur
Peon
September 5th, 2012 @ 3:44PM
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| I wish blizzard create more singleplayer maps and missions. I love playing SP for war1/war2/War3 and SC1/2. It makes me sad that there will be no new official Terran missions for 8-15 years. |
HappySmurf
Marine
September 5th, 2012 @ 4:03PM
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| I don't like playing betas because I don't like the game spoiled for myself, but I have no problem begging for a release date.
Pleeeeease please please PLLLLEASE I can has a release date? |
Disastrous Fate
General
September 5th, 2012 @ 4:53PM
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| I is excite.
GIMME GIMME GIMME |
Miamihrrcne
Marine
September 5th, 2012 @ 5:09PM
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| please please please please please please please
please |
Macavity
Peon
September 5th, 2012 @ 8:50PM
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| "I wish blizzard create more singleplayer maps and missions. I love playing SP for war1/war2/War3 and SC1/2. It makes me sad that there will be no new official Terran missions for 8-15 years."
I can make some if you want. They won`t have all the luxurious voice acting, but they will be fun.
There does seem to be a huge void of single player fun in the custom maps. Everyone is too busy trying to make the next DOTA. If there is some interest, I`ll consider making them. |
Blazer
Instigator
January 23rd, 2013 @ 6:28AM
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| That trailer was badass. |
HappySmurf
Marine
January 31st, 2013 @ 4:19PM
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Virginia (As conservative as California is Liberal)
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| I want so badly to watch that trailer but I also want to wait until I have the game ready to play. Why must Blizzard tempt me so?! |
Frimzy
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March 8th, 2013 @ 1:40PM
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| This new release is sort of bittersweet. For a long time I've not been happy with the way Blizzard games have been going. Battle.net after three years still feels like it has half the features of the old one. Micro-transactions and monetization are everywhere. And I keep feeling that I have less and less of a control over something I bought. And games just don't seem as fun as before, especially Diablo III endgame.
And whenever concerns are brought to Blizzard the response is a rather shocking 'F. that Loser'.
This is not a rant, but rather just disappointment at the direction Blizzard has been heading when it turned into a corporation. This is the first in 2 decades that I am not buying a blizzard game on launch even though I was planning on getting 4 copies for myself and family. Maybe I'll get it later if the outlook improves. |
Mantaur
Peon
March 8th, 2013 @ 3:37PM
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| I suck pretty bad at this game 1v1. Trying to get better a little bit each day. I think I have managed to get past most some of the anxiety that comes with it. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
March 8th, 2013 @ 9:44PM
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| Frimzy, I think the real issue for us is we've grown up and games, while still fun, just don't hold the level of enjoyment we had when we were younger.
I think SCII blew away the previous SC. Diablo III is the only black mark on an otherwise perfect record at Blizzard. |
Disastrous Fate
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March 11th, 2013 @ 12:47PM
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| I ended up preordering this to get into the multiplayer beta, so I'm all set to jump in. I honestly can't wait. I'm not as excited as prior to SC2, but I'm still pretty damn excited. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
March 11th, 2013 @ 6:57PM
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| Ill be playing for the next 6 days straight will be at the midnight launch tonight wearing my original SCII launch Tshirt like the nerd I am(They gave it to me at Gamestop for bringing my Frostmourne haha). |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
March 11th, 2013 @ 9:12PM
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| Man there were probably 1/10th of the people there that there were for the original SCII release. That doesn't bode well for Blizzard.
Wow this is retarded...I can't freaking play the game until Midnight PST? What horseshit. I guess I'll twiddle my thumbs for the next 3 hours. I guess that explains why so few people were at the midnight launch this time.
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VitoBro
Peon
March 12th, 2013 @ 10:19AM
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| Bought it, loaded up and played first mission of the campaign, then proceeded to go to work.
Any other time I would have called out of work/school and play the new Blizzard game all day on release day.
I`m 27 and I`m finally getting old I guess? |
Macavity
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March 13th, 2013 @ 10:08AM
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| Completed the campaign and currently redoing it on Brutal.
The campaign is fun. I`m enjoying it more than Wings of Liberty. The campaign does seem much easier than WoL though. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
March 13th, 2013 @ 8:01PM
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| Beat every mission with all achievements on Brutal now. Best campaign and Cinematics Blizzard has released to date but I feel it is on the easy side for the hardest difficulty setting. I don't even build a base on so many missions, pretty much just Kerrigan and Hydralisks. No mission is even remotely as difficult as "All In" from WOL and I rarely had to play a mission more than once except to get a few achievements I missed. Time to start on the multiplayer.
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Macavity
Peon
March 14th, 2013 @ 1:12PM
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| Also beat all the missions on Brutal with all achievements. I think once you beat WoL on brutal, you know what to expect and HOTS isn`t as tough. In WoL, I mostly played marine/medic and attack moved the entire time. All In seemed tougher because it was a defensive mission. Last mission for Zerg campaign isn`t going to be defensive, obviously.
For those who want to know, here are the optimal mutations/skills. OR depends on the mission.
Zergling- Metabolic boost / Raptor (crazy good)
Baneling- Corrosive OR Rupture / Hunter
Roach - Hydriodic Bile / Corpser (This is so ridiculously overpowered)
Hydralisk - Doesn`t matter, I chose extra life / Lurker
Mutalisk - Depends on mission / depends on mission
Swarm Host - Pressured Glands / Carrion
Ultralisk - Monarch Blades / Torreseque
For Kerrigan`s abilities, this is what I found...
Tier 1: Heroic Fortitude (strangely enough)
Tier 2: Chain Reaction
Tier 3: Zergling Reconstitution (for early missions with lots of zergling use) then I go for Improved Overlords
Tier 4: Spawn Banelings (surprisingly MUCH better than either the excellent Mend or Wild Mutation. Can wipe out bases without losing a unit.)
Tier 5: Twin Drones (other abilities suck)
Tier 6: Fury OR Ability Efficiency
Tier 7: Drop-pods (instant mass army useful for attacking enemy bases)
Now I need to retrain myself for multiplayer... |
ReaverSC
Peon
March 14th, 2013 @ 4:13PM
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| How do I join the expect nothing group? |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
March 14th, 2013 @ 4:52PM
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| Just search for it in groups and join. No invite needed. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
March 14th, 2013 @ 8:23PM
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| I never built a roach or a mutalisk outside the missions you acquire them. Nothing but Hydralisks(with + 1 range), Queens(for creep + heals) and ultralisks(with torrasque and the burrowed charge which is OP), the entire Tier 3 of units was just useless in the campaign.
Most of the way through the Mastery achievements now, also ridiculously easy, if anyone has a question on one let me know.
Odd I have a completely different Kerrigan build and thoughts on them.
Tier 1 Kinetic Blast 300 damage ability is just too good to pass up. It's instagib all those annoying Seige tanks behind lines, and makes fighting collossi, carriers and tough units a piece of cake. Health is irrelevant since Kerrigan can't die with mend unless you try soloing in deep.
Tier 2 Psionic Shift is a must have IMO! 30% movement speed is so sick in most fights you need to run back and forth. I think chain reaction wasn't nearly as good as psionic shift since it basically only boils down to 40 extra damage a hit when there is 4 more targets. With psionic shift you can charge through enemy lines, escape maurauders and when on creep you can cross the map disgustingly fast.
Tier 3 Improved Overlords a no brainer.
Tier 4 I liked Spawn Banelings but Mend is just SICK! You can use it to keep your hydralisks and zerglings topped off and keep kerrigan fighting armies solo.
Tier 5, Twin drones useless since I almost never needed resources outside the first couple minutes and Malignant creep is just sick when you cover the map in creep and it is much easier to do that with this. Your Towers and units all get 30% increased attack speed which is huge if you have a ranged hydralisk army with Kerrigan tanking.
Tier 6 I went Fury but ability efficiency is better as when I calculated it after I beat the game you can do far more damage with Ability efficiency + Kinetic Blast/psionic shift/mend than with her white damage attacks.
Tier 7 Drop pods best IMO, don't need to micro anything and it isn't situational like apocalypse. That ability with Kerrigan mend made any tough fights easy and you could always take your leftover with you to help clear other areas.
I really think they need to come out with a "legendary" difficulty for this game now, I find the lack of challenge (or perhaps the OP Kerrigan abilities) making the campaign much less enjoyable than it should be. |
Macavity
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March 14th, 2013 @ 10:30PM
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| I was a fan of Kinetic Blast until I realized that Spawn Broodlings performed the same job so much better. With Heroic Fortitude, I didn`t need mend. (Although Wild Mutate, the third choice, is also extremely good. It`s neat to throw it on a stack of mutas and just raze through armies.)
I thought Hydralisks were terrible (when I had to use them, I switched from increased range to increased health which worked better. Then again, I had stopped using `mend` by that time). The zerglings with metabolic boost/raptor with Kerrigan`s `zerging rez` passive ability makes early missions so easy. And the corpser roach was so overpowered I could just make only that and attack-move in Phantoms of the Void.
I found while abilities like Kinectic Blast or Psionic Shift were good, I was too distracted to use them consistently all the time. I felt like those passive abilities, while may not be as good, were used 100% of the time where often I would not use those other abilities as well as I could.
It sounds like you had a more complicated Kerrigan with a simpler army while I had a simpler Kerrigan and more complicated army (I used nearly every unit except swarm hosts). Interesting how we went through brutal in different ways.
While I think the campaign is good, there is something that feels off. I finally realized it. The missions are more gimmicky than RTS. One mission felt like Diablo where the boss was like a reincarnation of Belial. While The Frozen Throne had a `tower defense` mission, it was a secret mission. But now it seems like those type of missions are forced on you, and I don`t like it. I want RTS in my Starcraft 2 campaign, not Diablo, not Starship-RPG, and some of the other high gimmick missions. If the campaign felt easy, I think it is because it wasn`t using those RTS muscles as we expected. In many ways, it felt more like a Warcraft 3 campaign.
It would be nice for there to be a macro mission. On higher difficulties, the more you had to macro. (Casual would have you with one base, Normal with two, Hard on three, Brutal on four, etc.) I don`t mind single player being different from multiplayer, but I do want single player to remain RTS. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
March 14th, 2013 @ 11:37PM
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| Yeah I played around with Wild Mutate when I did all my "Kerrigan" achievements, I admit the bonus damage was nice but the still found Mend to be more useful, 75 health on a 8 second cooldown with a wide radius around you just crazy late game when you clearing bases in a mass of hydras and ultras.
It is hard to say really what is better without the missions being more difficult. If there were an "All in" or "In utter darkness" equivalent I may find different abilities more useful.
I don't mind the differences in the classic RTS and Starcraft (although the Hyperion mission seemed a bit off if still fun). If I wanted to play classic RTS I'd go play command and conquer or something equivalent. I definitely had more in this campaign than any RTS to date, maybe we just burned through it too fast.
I have yet to find one of these "mastery" achievements challenging. They should require them on Brutal or something instead of hard. The most difficult thing about these achievements is trying to get the unclear ones that don't explain what you need to do clearly.
I think that damn F2 key untrained years of RTS hotkey grouping, I'm going to get my ass handed to me when I start playing multiplayer until I relearn it.
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Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
March 15th, 2013 @ 8:04PM
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| I also wanted to say I was disappointed that Blizzard put "Bobby Kotick" on the "Very Special Thanks" credits. Screw that guy. |
Disastrous Fate
General
March 16th, 2013 @ 12:15PM
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| Anyone else think the story was much improved from WoL? I still think it was a mistake to.. umm.. change Kerrigan, as BW-era Kerrigan is still my favorite character from a Blizzard game. Honestly, that -whole- game was her story. Blizzard doesn't really have teeth like that anymore.
However, I remember alternating between eye-rolling boredom and face-slamming rage during WoL's story, while HotS damn near worked most of the time. I especially liked the Primal Zerg stuff (even if it was a retcon), and I thought the ending was a bit touching.
I also really enjoyed the campaign. I only wish I had more to play. Oh well.. two more years.... |
Macavity
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March 16th, 2013 @ 4:55PM
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| RTS genre is the only game genre where you get to experience the good guy perspective as well as the bad guy perspective. RTS single player was fun because of the different perspectives (like playing as evil Stalin to spread Communism around the world in Red Alert).
Wings of Liberty only had one race for single player (Terran) which really felt like much of the traditional single player RTS experience was missing.
Wings of Liberty story focused more on the interplay of characters instead of factions. HOTS feels better because there isn`t any interplay of characters (very, very few exchanges since Raynor is MIA for most of the campaign and the other characters are your subservient slaves).
It also feels good to play Zerg. Perhaps people will really like Void since then the three races will finally be present, and it will finally feel like a RTS single player experience.
I just hope in Void there is more interplay between factions and not characters. Wings of Liberty might as well been a soap opera.
In Warcraft 4, I DO NOT WANT race specific expansion packs. Please no! Not Warcraft 4 vanilla being Human then the Undead Expansion Pack then the Orc Expansion Pack and then the Night Elf Expansion Pack. Give us all four perspectives per single player experience. Viva la difference is the RTS single player experience. No other game genre has it. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
March 17th, 2013 @ 12:35AM
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| Well to be honest there isn't much interesting they could do with the Human story if you think about it. I think the whole Raynor conflict in WoL set up HoTS pretty nicely. WoL did have throwaway characters like Tichus and Tosh that you never learn to care for.
Abathur was my favorite character in HoTS though, even if he did remind me of the collector boss in Mass Effect 3. |
Disastrous Fate
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| Things that bug me about both games:
1. Mengsk as the main villain - since when? At the end of Brood War, Kerrigan more or less treated him as a non-threat. Meanwhile, Raynor saved his life and didn't seem particularly keen to go after him anymore. Of course, they still hated him. I just didn't think people really gave a shit about him or his little Dominion after Brood War. All of a sudden, WoL was all about liberating the Dominion or something stupid like that. I thought the whole point of Vanilla Terran was that taking down one dictator in Koprulu just leads to another...? God, Blizzard's work used to be so more cynical.. and interesting.
2. I get that they're setting up for another big baddy, but they really did it in the lamest way possible. In WoW, I can understand the great big evil threat of the week. In SC, I'd hope for something a bit more grounded. But whatever.
3. Kerrigan in Brood War was -awesome-. By the end of HotS, she's cool again, but she's still not her BW self. Raynor also seems like a bit of a lovesick puppy.
Still, all that said, HotS was much improved from WoL. Hopefully, by the end of the third, they will be figuring out how to write interesting narratives again.
The campaigns themselves are excellent. I wish they had a few more truly classic missions, but, otherwise, tip-top. They represent the best of the post-BW SP RTS campaigns. |
Charkoth
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March 17th, 2013 @ 4:43PM
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| I don't know I think the entire story of Starcraft is pretty weak and uses a ton of cliches if you look at it. You seem to be expecting some amazing story, but short of creating new conflicts out of thin air like they are doing, Starcraft was resolved in Brood War.
Once Aemon is dead they will have Earth returning in force etc. There is only so much you can do that is new and interesting. I think Kerrigan herself and her developments are the only thing unique to Starcraft really. |
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| There's a difference between an "amazing" story and one that's interesting. WoL was neither. Brood War was at least the latter. Blizzard's stories used to have teeth. They used to pack a punch. Think about Terran Vanilla, Terran BW, or the end of Brood War. It was never as simple as, "Good guys beat bad guys." Not even close. I still watch those ending FMVs just because of how entertaining they are.
The closest to the straight forward good/bad archetype was Protoss Vanilla, but, still, you're left with the fact that Tassadar is dead, that Aiur is beyond redemption, and nothing is really solved. In Protoss BW, you're allied to Kerrigan, killing your own, and basically aware that everything you do just draws you more intensely into Kerrigan's orbit. The revelation about Razagal was the final cherry on it.
WoL, by comparison, would make Top Gun blush with its absolutely edgeless, vapid inanity. God, they were so convinced that they created this huge epic moment by the end, and I just rolled my eyes at the whole thing. All they did was run around acting like Mengsk was a big bad for a while, realize that a MacGuffin can "save" Kerrigan, then "save" her. The same character that, btw, was -clearly- irredeemable at the end of Brood War. In fact, I'd say the whole -point- of Brood War was the revelation that she was irredeemable.
HotS was definitely an improvement, but I still think it accomplished less than Brood War by some margin.
Obviously, none of it is high art. I read a lot of fiction, and nothing in gaming comes close. Still, there's variance within gaming, and Brood War and WoL manage to find themselves on quite opposite ends of the spectrum. |
