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Monday, November 25th, 2013SUGGEST NEWS

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar on November 25th, 2013 @ 11:53PM
  • 11/25 - Level 38. I beat all the Mage Guild stuff.
  • 11/19 - Level 35. haha.
  • 11/11 - Up to Level 31. It says I have like 300 hours played. That game sure puts me to sleep. It sure is boring after COD Ghosts/Saint's Row. I will be the last person to beat it!
  • 9/22 - Up to Level 26. I finally solved the never load problem. I beat all the Assassin guild quests but they didn't have a big enough ending for me so I kept doing this quest called "infinite" without realizing it would never end, haha.

  • 9/17 - I've spent at least 7 hours trying to load saves that don't work. For the 2nd time I uninstalled, deleted everything then reloaded. I think I might have solved it. I'm up to level 23.

  • 9/11 - ug, dumb thing keeps not loading saves. Then I have to start over and lose 2 hours. I spent at least 2 days trying to load saves.
  • 9/3 - Looks like it's been 1 year + 6 months since I've
    played. Funny. I am so bored I started playing again, esp since I am using a controller now. I have a level 16 character with specialization in 2-hand, Archery, Block, Sneak, etc. I make the same char every time. It's been so long I don't know what I'm doing. Also, wish I knew how to control the spells better.

  • 3/2012 - Skyrim Beta update 1.5 adds new cinematic kills
  • 3/14 - Unofficial Skyrim Patch
  • 3/13 - Bethesda's Todd Howard on Skyrim's biggest development hurdle, fan-made mods, and what happens next
  • 3/2 - I just can't get into it. I keep playing for like 20 mins then quitting. I'll just keep waiting for whatever.
  • 2/14 - I think I enjoy the fallout universe much more. This one is just morrowind with better graphics. The dungeons and graphics look AMAZING though. I'll keep with it. I have the same bug with archery as MOrrowind and Oblivion. I start to shoot an arrow, don't need it, then I have to fire it at nothing and then pick it up. Any solution to that?
  • 2/13 - OK playing it more. Let me know any mods I should have.
  • 2/10 - To all the archers of Skyrim, go here. You actually get to train in archery by shooting arrows, not paying money. (elderscrolls.wikia.com)
  • 2/10 - Todd Howard: Over 10 million Skyrim players, average PC playtime 75 hours
  • 2/9 - skyRimGameJam "Bethesda went crazy for a week and added all kinds of awesome things into Skyrim for fun. Here's hoping we see them in the future as DLC or whatnot [x-post from r/skyrim]. "
  • 1/31 - Andy Richter's super secret Skyrim voiceover work, revealed!
  • 1/21 - I'm finding it really hard to start. I just keep quitting and going to BF3 anyway. I just don't care about the story like Fallout. I just quit when I see wall of text.
  • 1/19 - Let me know if you see any mods I should get.
  • 1/19 - Skyrim Hoarders
  • 1/11 - Skyrim 2012 - Funny
  • 1/9 - I started it last night at 3 a.m. I got out of the cave and quit. I created a Wood Elf. As with EVERY game, the chars always look horrible! haha. I can't ever make a hot chick in any of their games.
  • 1/9 - What mods should I get? What should I do to my character? I always go Archer/Thief/Lock Picking, every time.
  • New Skyrim Mod Helps You Lead An Army Of Children - The humor of this video is totally lost in his horrible bad language (NSFW). But if you mute it, it's pretty funny.
  • Is Skyrim Kotakuļæ½s Game of the Year?
  • Lydia Vs Gate - I don't understand this whole Lydia thing. Annoying NPC?
  • An Annotated Map of Skyrim Big Enough to Put on Your Wall
  • Guy Fills Skyrim House With 1,000 Troll Skulls
  • The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim: The Kotaku Review
  • Skyrim mod adds Street View-like map functionality
  • Skyrim Ships 7 million copies and expected to Generate $450 million
  • Best Skyrim Mods
  • Everyone is playing this game. It was at 274,000 people on Steam yesterday. Everyone at work is playing. I'll play it but I'll stick to Saint's Row 3 first.
  • Skyrim: Release the tumbling Snow Bear!
  • Review: Skyrim is far greater than the sum of its parts


    DeuceOfSpades wrote: - 2011-11-11 20:12:03

    Metacritic ratings are 95/100 for PC, 96/100 for Xbox360, and 94/100 for PS3. So many good games, so little time :(


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    Charkoth
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    November 21st, 2013 @ 6:22AM

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    On a side note, I'm loving the Elder Scrolls Online so far. It's very similar to Skyrim. This weekend will be the first multi-day beta test that I've been invited to.
    Charkoth
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    November 11th, 2013 @ 6:20AM

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    I have 300 hours played and I did every possible thing in that game, max level, max every skill, explored every dungeon etc. How are you only 30? Maybe you have been sleeping instead of playing?
    Charkoth
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    September 4th, 2013 @ 12:21PM

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    Funny I just got my Elder Scrolls Online invite today. Still can't believe you never beat it Nebu.
    Blazer
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    March 29th, 2012 @ 7:09AM

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    Beat this game the other day. The ending (or lack thereof) was a big letdown. I'll probably still keep playing to try and get all achievements...I'm at 40/50.

    Put 135 hours into the game so far and overall I'd say it was a great experience. Very memorable.
    meorah
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    March 5th, 2012 @ 7:24AM

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    Lagg: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=3863

    jd: destruction is fine. it's great for leveling, stunlocking, and backup to your more powerful magic schools (conjuration, illusion, alteration). Assuming you are going to have a large mana pool, perk up to -50% cost up to adept destruction, and use enchanting and alchemy to enhance the school, it continues to be useful all the way through character level 70, which is further than most people will level their characters. It's also much easier to use than trying to be a mage and pull out a bow for backup.

    Apparently I like the game enough to play it in no less than a 3-hour window per session. Try as I might to only play 30 minutes or limit myself to an hour, it just doesn't happen.

    Unfortunately, I am only questing about 30 minutes to an hour per session, and using the other 2 hours to fast travel from city to city so I can sell off all the loot I got. I understand that the speech perks help a ton with this, but I'm not wasting perks on speech when I can just leave loot lying around.

    In fact, I've become so picky about loot that the only things I pick up now are enchanted loot (to disenchant if I don't already know it), quest objectives, gold, alchemy reagents, and soul gems with souls on them. It's still too much hassle to sell off in town, so NOW I just stash it all in one of my houses like a freakin chipmunk and spend entire 2 hour sessions just logging in to collect loot from houses and sell to vendors whenever I need money.

    If I don't need money, I don't sell loot.

    Other than the administrative overhead of the game, it's awesome. I guess I just need to install a mod that gives me all the speech perks without wasting them on speech perks.
    craig
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    March 3rd, 2012 @ 4:52PM

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    Can't get into it? Skyrim is all hype. Play Dark Souls instead.
    Wootah
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    March 2nd, 2012 @ 1:44PM

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    There are mods out there that vastly improve the AI of the followers.
    DeuceOfSpades
    Kali Compton

    March 2nd, 2012 @ 12:53PM

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    What questlines are you trying to play, Nebu?
    Charkoth
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    Yes using the rack or smelter doesn't raise smithing but it's the best way to get leather for bracers and iron ingots for daggers.
    meorah
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    February 15th, 2012 @ 5:18PM

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    Leave combat mode (R key)
    Blazer
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    February 15th, 2012 @ 5:50AM

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    @Charkoth: Using the tannery rack or smelter doesn't raise smithing. Read here: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Smithing

    Just checked on speech and it turns out I was slightly wrong: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Speech
    "If you trade multiple units of an item in one transaction, you will only gain experience equivalent to trading a single unit; for optimal leveling, sell each item one at a time, and sell expensive items." Guess it only applies to multiples of the same.

    And yeah, Neb if you want to cancel your drawn bow just sheath the weapon.

    It's amazing how deep this game is. I can spend hours on Wikipedia just researching things to do or checking up on lore. D3 seems like it'll be a stark contrast to this game in terms of depth and complexity...we'll see how it pans out.

    EDITED: 2012-02-15 05:52:45
    LaGG
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    February 14th, 2012 @ 5:43PM

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    "I have the same bug with archery as MOrrowind and Oblivion. I start to shoot an arrow, don't need it, then I have to fire it at nothing and then pick it up. Any solution to that?"

    I think you just sheath your weapon. (default on PC is R)
    Charkoth
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    Just going off memory here
    1)Potions - Learn all 4 effects for every reagent then you can just make potions from the most expensive(regenerative + invis) to the least expensive flat damage + healing. The trick is to pick one reagent for a particular effect and then find another ingredient under that effect that shares another effect. Even if the effects are a poison and a positive effect it will still sell for far more.

    2) Best weapon enchant for selling is Paralyze, and then Banish. If you get 100 enchanting with the double enchant perk you can put both. What I would do to make ridiculous cash is buy iron ore, transmute it to silver and gold(raising alteration), smelt it and then make rings(smithing) and then enchant them both to sneak and carry weight which is the most expensive combo.
    3)Smithing armor isn't nearly as profitable as the weapons. Best build is to buy Ebony ingots, make Ebony bows (3 ingots only), then enchant paralyze + Banish. The real difficulty is the bows sell for far more than most merchants carry. To offset that I would make a shit ton of them and use them to level my speech by buying items I didn't need then selling them back at a loss so they had enough gold to buy the bow.

    Blazer you are incorrect on the Speech. I raised my speech from 55 to 100 speaking to a single trader. I had built up so many potions that no one ever had enough gold to buy that I started selling them and buying them back from a merchant. In the end it only cost me about 50,000 gold in buying and selling the same potions back and forth to max my speechcraft. Try it for yourself if you want.

    Also Wootah was right in using leather > Bracers to level his smithing.

    The trick I did was any time I entered a town, I would buy out all off the ore,iron ingots, ebony ingots, leather and then make leather bracers and iron daggers. I'd then sell the bracers and daggers back for most of my gold along with other things I was carrying.

    One last trick is if you save your game after buying out all of the merchants and completely close down the game and relaunch it, they will all regen their gold. I did that a ton until after I had half a million gold and realized I was wasting my time being scrooge.
    cobsteele02
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    February 14th, 2012 @ 2:54PM

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    This is the only Bethesda game that hooked me. Did not like any of the fallouts, or oblivion, or morrowind.

    This one though is pretty darned good. While I still do not understand all the hype it generates.
    Blazer
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    @Wootah

    Regarding smithing, using the tanner and smelter does not improve smithing as you may think. You can only improve this skill by forging items or improving them.

    If you're getting alchemy learn the recipe to fortify smithing. Consume that potion before smithing any items to get an extra boost. I also carried a necklace and ring of peerless smithing to gain a temporary boost right before improving gear. Did the same for alchemy as well.

    A great way to farm skills is collect any gems as well as silver/gold ore. Smith a bunch of jewelry, enchant it with fortify carry weight (one of the most profitably enchantments for gear that I've found), and then sell them.

    Also, another tip that took me a long time to figure out is you cannot sell any stolen items. Later on you can when you join the thieves guild, or get the appropriate perk in speech to allow fences.
    Blazer
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    A few tips:
    - Get a house and wife as soon as possible. A house lets you store all your excess loot, and a wife will accrue gold for you.
    - I'm a firm believer in using follower to not only mitigate the difficulty but also as a mule. If your companion is overburdened you can instruct him to pick up object above their carry weight. Personally, I'm using the mage Marcurio because he doesn't get in your way and he's intelligent with his attacks (uses appropriate dmg against certain weaknesses).
    - There's 3 easy ways to get rich:
    1) Potions. Boost your alchemy, find the most profitable potion to make, and churn them out. Mixing different ingredients adds different effects to potions to increase their worth. Ingredients are all over the place and they can be purchased really cheap.
    2) My favorite is to enchant daggers with the banish enchantment (the affix which unsummons Daedras). If you find this affix on a weapon disenchant it immediately. You can cheaply forge a bunch of daggers, apply this enchantment with a petty soul gem, and the value is around 1,000 gold apiece.
    3) Smithing high-end armor can be hugely profitable. Dwarven, ebony, and later Daedric and Dragon will make you rich instantly. Hold onto the following for this purpose: Daedra hearts, dragon scales, dragon bones.
    - I'm always carrying a pickaxe, so I put the banish enchantment on it. When a monster summons a flame or frost antioch I just banish it for instant death.
    - My favorite stone is the lovers stone which enhances all skill gain. Activating this stone was one of my first priorities in the game.
    - If you want to boost your speech, only sell one expensive item at a time. Sell it, cancel out of the speech, and go back to sell it. Selling multiple items in one session only boosts your speech once.
    - If you want to boost destruction, continue to use flames on your "Frost" mount once you've earned him. His health regen is really fast so you won't kill him. Attack with both hands but not at the same time (click/hold each mouse button separately). You can boost both destruction and regeneration by using flames and healing hands.
    Wootah
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    February 14th, 2012 @ 10:57AM

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    OH and now with the mods, the game has tons of awesome things you can add, like kill cams for arrows and spells.
    Wootah
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    February 14th, 2012 @ 10:56AM

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    50 hours in, level 31.
    Going

    Alchemy
    1 Hander
    Shields
    Archery
    Stealth
    Light Armor

    A lot of abilities you want to level, but not necessarily put points in. Like my smithing is almsot 75, but I just use it to improve weapons. leveling it is super easy, just kill tons of game on the road, make leather, make leather bracers.
    Enchant those with petty soul gems to level enchanting too.
    Charkoth
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    If you play the game right, any way is EZmode even on Master difficulty once you get your gear configured right.

    Casting and Archery would be much more enjoyable with the "Kill Cam" they have on weapons. I think I killed the final boss with 6 swings of my sword and that was on Master difficulty ) =
    Blazer
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    Dual casting destruction makes this game ezy mode. I can stun lock any single opponent indefinitely, and just continue to blast away with firebolts until they're dead. Groups of monsters I just blanket the ground with wall of fire, and then alternate firebolts to stun lock approaching threats.

    I'm gonna try and get all achievements in the game. Just reached 50 and got all the auxiliary ones. All that remains are quest-related ones. Haven't spent too much time on the main quest since I'm so busy exploring and doing random missions.

    Daedric armor looks amazing, my hireling is fully decked out in that and I'm decked out in dragonscale armor.

    Also this game is probably the most beautiful game I've got in my entire library. Check out some screenshots.
    Nebuchadnezzar
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    oh. OK I'm about 3 hours in now. I hate the controls.
    Charkoth
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    Walls of text? Everything is voice acted and you don't have to listen to or read anything you don't care to. Even all of the "Additional information" selections are just extra for those that want more info. I bet you could put the entire main storyline in a couple thousand word script.
    Nebuchadnezzar
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    I start it, I'm hit with walls of text, then I quit.
    Blazer
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    Finally gave this game a shot and I can feel myself getting deeply drawn in. It's not without it's own charm, that's for sure.
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    The game is still pretty new, so there aren't many good mods out there. There are already some texture mods out but if you don't have an awesome system, it's probably not worth the trouble.

    There is no way to reset spent talent points, so be sure about what you want to build before you drop points into something.
    Charkoth
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    Yeah I advise no companions. I spent 300 hours before I did everything possible in the game. The lore was excellent and more importantly most of the things you could read tied into things in the game you would actually experience which to me was very enjoyable.

    About the only thing in the game I would recommend not bothering with is the whole Imperial/Stormcloak conflict....just skip that altogether as it doesn't really ad anything and it feels a bit forced.

    If I had to rate everything to do in the game I'd rate the following from best to worst

    Mage Questline
    Dark Brotherhood Questline
    Ogmum Infinitatum(sp) Daedric Questline
    Main Questline
    DragonPriest Mask Collection Quest(although not specifically a quest)
    Thieves Guild Questline
    Companions Questline
    All but one or two of the Daedric Quests

    All of these are excellent and really make Skyrim what it is.

    The only quests that were not interesting were the Imperial/Stormcloak quests outside of the major one for the Jagged Crown, and the Bard's guild collection quests which were lame except for the first one which I did before joining the bards guild.

    Really though the lore in the game is interesting to read and literally 75% of it ties in with dungeons and places you go and people/beings you fight.

    You're in for a treat Nebu, as far as mods go the only one I bothered with was the 4GB memory extender mod which stop my desktop crashes. I think they may have fixed that in a recent patch though so you should be good to go. Just keep and open mind and you won't be let down.

    I told my assistant at work about it and as he really didn't care for Oblivion (which he quit after playing a few hours) he thought he wouldn't like Skyrim either. I told him to stick with it after the slow start and now every morning he comes in my office and recounts his adventures in Skyrim to me.
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    I did archer/sneak/lockpick/pickpocket again also haha. Worked out pretty well. I tried a mage for a little bit but didn't like how it was going so I switched back.

    I put about 73 hours into it. It feels like a polished Oblivion to me. Nothing new really but this time the leveling system is better. It seemed like the enemies didn't all level with you this time so its not as annoying that way. I did a few cities, the thieves guild, dark brotherhood, and main quest line before quitting.

    I went solo, no companions. They just get in my way and are a pain to manage sometimes, especially when you are sneaking around and don't feel like micromanaging them.
    Nebuchadnezzar
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    "At least in Fallout I was interested in all the reading because a post apocalyptic reality fascinates me."

    I agree. I totally cared about the story there. I could care less about some made up fantasy story.

    I agree with BF3 too but I haven't tried Skyrim either.
    Blazer
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    I'm having a hard time getting into Skyrim. It's a rather slow beginning and I don't care too much for the lore. At least in Fallout I was interested in all the reading because a post apocalyptic reality fascinates me. This game I just don't care to listen to people's 'cool stories bro' unless it involves knee archery.

    Another problem is BF3 is completely outshining this game and receiving all of my gaming attention. Holy hell that game is great.
    Charkoth
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    She's the Housecarl you get from becoming Whiterun Thane.

    The AI isn't horrible but Bethesda should have made it so that your companions couldn't set off traps.

    What is funny is that companions can't die and she just keeps running over the trap trigger.

    :Edit: Companions only die if you strike the killing blow I believe.

    EDITED: 2011-11-28 16:28:11
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    November 28th, 2011 @ 2:07PM

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    Lydia is also really easy to kill for whatever reason. She's a follower (kind of like in Diablo III) with hideously bad AI, who is absolutely obnoxious and not at all effective. When they die, they die permanently.
    dohdohburd
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    Lydia is not really an annoying NPC, shes just one you can get pretty early on. Its more that the NPCs have horrible AI.
    Darren
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    Nothing is going to replace D3 for me, not Skyrim, not SWTOR, nothing. I'm in the tunnel running to the light with a BETA key finally... ffs it's like a drug.
    Charkoth
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    Up to 146 hours. Probably only halfway through with the game.

    Have max every skill except the magic ones, light armor, 2 handers and pickpocketing.

    The dungeons are just amazing, every one is different according to the theme of that particular dungeon. Definitely the best RPG I've played to date.
    Charkoth
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    Thanks for the Skyrim apps link. I desktop crashed every hour or so which was pretty annoying but made no sense because it would never happen right away after I reloaded the game. I could always tell it was about to happen because occasional textures would be missing. Now I understand the issue, the game couldn't load all the textures into memory.

    Stupid Bethesda created a 2GB limited executable game and running at 2560X1600 with ultra settings was why I kept crashing more than most people who seem to say it was every 4 hours or so.

    Used that mod to change the executable to 4GB and haven't crashed since! I love all of the customizations available for this game.
    Charkoth
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    Well considering you're swinging a melee weapon what do you expect to do with it? If it is a sword you can slash or stab (which is only a finisher realisticially). You can have varying levels of power to the attack and there is a lot involved in timing attacks after shield bashes or circling behind an enemy shield etc. It is a much more enjoyable combat system than The Witcher 2 which was my second favorite recent fantasy game. I mean you can't really use a combat system like assassins creed which for all intents and purposes is just a button masher. Skyrim is an RPG not an Action game like God of War or Assassins Creed.

    I'm not really a fan of Bethesda, I bought Oblivion but not the Oblivion expansion. I bought Fallout 3 but not any of the expansions or new vegas.

    Sure the game is slightly buggy and you have some minor annoying bugs (like desktop crashes every few hours). A lot of the has some buggy AI mainly because it is open world and not all enemies can correctly path to you. That being said I've seen some amazing AI in the game from things like Giants running from me and ducking behind rocks when I try to snipe them from a position they can't reach.

    The lore in the game is as well done as any fantasy game out there and better than most. I've read through a couple collections of different book sets already and they are pretty good.

    I really don't see what is not to like about skyrim unless it is the sheer overwhelming scope of the game. I'm at 70 hours now and have spent most of that just randomly exploring dungeons instead of advancing the main questline. Looking at the map I've maybe only done a quarter of them. The sheer amount of content is staggering.

    The bugs will get worked out I'm sure but Skyrim will never be an action game if that is what you are looking for. At least it isn't like so many other fantasy games where you just spam a single button. I have to approach each fight with a different strategy and if I don't I usually end up dead.

    Friking ancient dragon kills me in a single breath right now and it was only the second dragon I've seen haha.
    TheSilver_Ghost
    is awesome.

    November 15th, 2011 @ 7:49PM

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    That simply isn't true. Other than a host of different finishers you have several different attacks via power attacks for each weapon. I think it is far more rich than either Oblivion or Morrowind.

    A finisher is not an attack. It's something that just incidentally happens. And the "several different attacks" are still just the same attack: you hold down the mouse to "charge up" a melee attack. So okay, there's two melee attacks.

    The dragons are incredibly buggy and far too easy to exploit. I find myself doing it on accident. I also get them frequently spawn and then clone themselves, so I'm fighting two or three at once. Two is okay, normally, but three is almost always a no-go depending on where you are. But it is incredibly frustrating, especially when all you're trying to do is find a vendor who has enough gold to buy your crap.

    A lot of people don't like the fantasy genre and I'm fine with that but as far as fantasy games come this is as good as it's ever been.

    I wonder if you think me not liking Skyrim is due to me not liking the "fantasy genre"? Not the case. If you think this is as good as it has ever been, then that is incredibly sad for fantasy games.

    I'm glad people like it. I just don't see what the big deal is or why reviewers are constantly jizzing over Bethesda's crappy, bug-ridden games. Just one dude's opinion.
    Charkoth
    Right Wing Extremist

    November 15th, 2011 @ 9:41AM

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    If you play melee you have one attack for the entire game.

    That simply isn't true. Other than a host of different finishers you have several different attacks via power attacks for each weapon. I think it is far more rich than either Oblivion or Morrowind. The addition of shouts makes is pretty awesome.

    I had my first dragon fight last night and man was it unlike any other scripted "Dragon" fight that I've played.

    A lot of people don't like the fantasy genre and I'm fine with that but as far as fantasy games come this is as good as it's ever been.
    undreaming
    Kali Compton

    November 15th, 2011 @ 8:13AM

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    ME3 and HoTS are the only worthy games that are coming out in the next few years. Diablo III too, maybe.
    TheSilver_Ghost
    is awesome.

    November 15th, 2011 @ 8:09AM

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    Where's Diablo III?
    I tried out Skyrim. I just don't know what the appeal is. It's like an even more shallow Oblivion, which was in itself a watered-down morrowind. Each game feels like it's exactly the same.

    If you play melee you have one attack for the entire game.
    Jubedgy
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    November 14th, 2011 @ 5:33PM

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    Lots of great games coming out.

    Yeah, F me...working on BF3, took a little break to grind out MW3 single player (very short game...), then tried out skyrim (never played any of the games in the series, seems interesting). And then today my D3 beta key arrived. WTF.

    Good thing the sailboat racing season is about over so I can go anti-social for a few months.
    Charkoth
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    November 14th, 2011 @ 5:07PM

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    Yeah if people want insane difficulty try "master" difficulty. I just had a bandit leader with an iron two-hander 1 shot me while I was wearing Daedric plate and shield. Dark Souls eat your heart out haha. At least the bandits aren't wearing plate too(yet).

    Also to the people suggesting you hurt yourself by taking talents you don't use that isn't necessarily true as there are only so many useful perks that have base stat affects, skill levels ultimately affect your usefulness followed by perks. Once I started training 1 handers I was able to start going toe to toe with most foes without having to resort to cheesing them through archery and hiding.

    I'm also not sure I should have taken the Dragon smithing perk as I just noticed dragon plate is worse than daedric plate, just slightly lighter!

    Nebuchadnezzar
    The King

    November 14th, 2011 @ 3:56PM

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    I always go sneak/archery/thieving, every game.

    I have 96 hours so far on Fallout New Vegas.
    Charkoth
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    About 40 hours into Skyrim and I haven't killed a dragon yet!

    I'm playing on master difficulty so every fight is tough, I wanted to play a mage but the only way to play at this difficulty is through sneak attacks with a bow and staying under cover. I'm probably 50% sneak/archery/ 25% one-hander heavy armor/ 25% restoration destruction.

    I'd advise everyone to level up smithing/enchanting, getting 100% smithing is a must as you can more than double the stats on a weapon or armor. The best way to get to 100 easily is to buy iron ingots and leather and leather strips and use them to make iron daggers and leather bracers. Sadly making crappy items like that gives you as much of a bonus almost as much as making daedric items and is much cheaper. I got to 100 that way pretty easily.

    Playing on max setting at 2560X1600 with a few anti-alliasing mods to help sharpen images. The game looks AMAZING (although doesn't have as many cool effects as battlefield 3 due to the dated engine).

    I can easily see myself spending 200 hours on this game. Also if you haven't already pick up the strategy guide. It is worth it for all of the charts and tables alone and you can check it without having to tab out to some wiki site or something.

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    jdLordHelmet
    Good is Dumb

    November 13th, 2011 @ 8:09PM

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    Loving Skyrim so far. One piece of advice for anyone who hasn't gotten far yet. Pick your combat style and stick to it, don't dabble. Your level will go up but you won't be strong enough, and the scaling monsters will eat you alive (like in Oblivion). I'd avoid destruction altogether, along with all magic really. Destruction hits a wall and stops scaling when weapons keep getting better. stealth + archery is good if you are patient, or one-handed, or two-handed.

    There is no magic penalty for heavy armor in this game, but light is still probably better for move speed and better perks. And magic sucks anyway. Which I hate, because the effects look cool. I'll do a mage after a mage mod comes out, because they obviously don't want you playing one. Above level 30 it's useless.
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    November 13th, 2011 @ 2:04PM

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    But, but, but...but...SKYRIM?!

    I guess the silver lining is there might be a few mods out when I get back.

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    EightCounts
    Special Ops

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    I hope your not looking for sympathy, hj. haha.
    hjparcins
    General

    November 13th, 2011 @ 11:05AM

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    Fuck me. I picked this up on release and I've rolled 5 different guys after deciding I want to do a different thing each time.

    This is a recurring problem for me. Too much freedom and I just can't get comfortable. I get 5-10 hours in and think, hmmm, that spell looked cool, why did I put all my perks in blocking and one handers?

    At any rate, I don't think you have to wait for mods on this one. It really is a great game - and this coming from a guy who wanted to love Oblivion but couldn't stomach it until 2 years later with a gig or so of mods. They really did a good job this time. It's pretty much Morrowind meets Fallout 3 - they took the best stuff from each of them.

    Now, the horrible part? I'm super excited to play this all day but I'm out of town for a week on business and THEN I go to Mexico for a week of vacation after that. I got a solid day of playing in only to have to wait for 2 weeks. I've never been so bummed about going to an all inclusive resort before.
    LaGG
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    November 13th, 2011 @ 9:08AM

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    I hope they improve the UI for PC. There are several places where you can "use" the mouse but it's 10x easier to use the wasd and arrow keys. The skill screen is most notable.

    I hate it when game companies treat the PC version of something like an afterthought.

    Otherwise, it's great fun like oblivion was (also horrible UI)
    DarkShear
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    November 12th, 2011 @ 3:58PM

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    Lots of great games coming out.
    Tapar
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    November 12th, 2011 @ 10:50AM

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    It is a bit crazy this year! I am glad I picked up the PC version of Skyrim though. I tried controlling it via the xbox360 controller. I really disliked it, felt like trying to write with your off hand. Controlling it via the keyboard worked much better for me.

    Cool leveling system this time around too. You raise skills and on level-ups you get 1 perk point. Apparently by max level is 70 so you have to be somewhat restrained as you can't take all the perks (70 out of 250). I am going a bit batty trying to decide which way I want my character to go. I am leaning towards thief skills with some mage, but I suspect I would do better going thief/warrior given how I play. I played for a good 10 hrs and feel like I haven't even scratched the surface.
    Surelog
    Kali Compton

    November 12th, 2011 @ 9:36AM

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    I wish Game dev's could stop producing games for a year so I can catch up.
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    General

    November 12th, 2011 @ 8:38AM

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    As tempting as this game sounds, knowing Bethesda's track record I think I'll hold off until a few patches come out and some community mods.


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