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HappySmurf
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| Cell phone service was disrupted too so I couldn't call anyone. I had no choice but to leave the house and see Men in Black 3. It....it was awful... |
RowdyRoddyPiper
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| This is big news for all you gun owners like myself. this is dick morris of fox news (usually dont care for neocon stuff) but this could be true with the crooks in charge. he says they will sign the U.N. small arms treaty on july 27th. wich will ban all.... i mean ALL handgun sales. If the crooks and scum on the supreme court will mandate you buying a corporations private product like health insurance then guns being banned are next will americans fight? will they stand up for their guns when they usually sit down and take everything?
guys seriously this will lead to war in the u.s.
If you dont have weapons get them NOW.
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ivehadnoduisforthreeweeks
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| Can the Motor City rise again?
You know David Sarif of Sarif Industries is trying to revitalize Detroit too with facilities that make cybernet augmentations in Detroit. Sarif grew up in Detroit which is why. |
Trickshot
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| Came home from up north to find the storm did this.
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Zelph01
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| There are a lot of rich Chinese developers who are scared shitless right now. They've spent billions of China's money and have no tenants to repay the costs or produce a cashflow. Once things finally go to pot in China after the government wonders where all the money went, you can bet that Asylum bids go up and the hangings begin. |
Wootah
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July 11th, 2012 @ 1:22PM
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| Romney article about dressing up as a cop is a joke. Are we supposed to get all upset that he pulled a practical joke on his friends by pulling them over while on dates? If he pulled over strangers that would be something different, but his friends?
And the funny thing is that it is a story of a story that a friend allegedly heard from Romney. Add in the fact that the author writes 'because God hates Michigan and there is nothing to do there' and it makes you wonder who has the problem.... which is probably why nobody seems to find a problem with Romney pulling people over.
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Skyfreak
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| Obamacare costing 2.6 trillion is false.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/jul/11/american-commitment/tv-ad-says-health-laws-cost-2-trillion-double-what/ |
killer6600
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July 11th, 2012 @ 10:23PM
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| if he was just dressing up as a cop and tapping on the window of people making out, thats a funny practical joke
but if he's putting a flashing light on his car and pulling people over then it becomes a safety concern, we all know how people rubberneck at a cop car on the side of the road trying to see what the person is getting a ticket for |
killer6600
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| But it seems like now they skip college sometimes. Or maybe that's just basketball.
its neither, but basketball makes you go for only 1 year |
Smokin Joe
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July 12th, 2012 @ 12:38PM
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| The NBA requires you to wait one year after your high school class graduates, the NFL requires you wait three years.
I kinda find it ridiculous - if a player is good enough and a team wants to take a risk on them, they should be allowed to go straight to the pros. The minimum amount of time to wait is simply there to protect the NCAA's wallets.
Oh, and holy shit - things are going to get much much worse for Penn State before they get.. well worse.
Maybe it'll get better. Maybe after the several civil suits, or perhaps after the NCAA potentially steps in, but it's going to take a long, long time.
Edit: I a word.
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ReaverSC
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| I hope everyone of those bastards lose everything they have after getting the shit sued out of them.
Should be a lesson to all the other college programs and schools out there.
Preventing kids from getting raped > football |
Trickshot
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| Anyone who didn`t grow up with the internet shouldn`t be running things. Period. |
Disastrous Fate
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| It's amazing that you're willing to call a murdered kid a "scumbug" because of a few hysterical media reports. Sure, he may have done a few bad things in his life, but nothing worthy of getting followed then gunned down by an adult stranger.
If Martin was white, the GOP faithful would've blasted and attacked Zimmerman from the word 'Go.' The fact that he was black is all that it took to put the GOP hivemind on Zimmerman's side. |
Smokin Joe
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| Accused by a female relative?
I guess if you can't keep it in the pants, keep it in the family.
...I'll just show myself out. |
Charkoth
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July 18th, 2012 @ 4:47PM
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| You seriously have the nerve to use the term GOP "Hivemind" on one hand while defending a kid you don't know from being called a scumbag based on his own PROVEN deeds and written words and terming a self-defense case as someone being "gunned down"?
As far as female ACCUSATION of Zimmerman, it seems that is all you need any more to convict someone of a crime in this country in most idiots minds. In case you didn't notice Zimmerman wasn't convicted of anything despite you believing he is guilty. It is almost like Herman Cain all over again.
I'm not defending Zimmerman, he may be guilty or he may be innocent, I'll let the people who actually have evidence make a case of that and when it is all done and made public, decide for myself.
My opinion is that Zimmerman and his family are probably trash, and while he made a poor choice of someone to profile, his intention wasn't to kill anyone. |
RowdyRoddyPiper
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July 18th, 2012 @ 6:33PM
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| i wouldnt doubt if they sell detroit to china |
Disastrous Fate
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| "You seriously have the nerve to use the term GOP "Hivemind" on one hand while defending a kid you don't know from being called a scumbag based on his own PROVEN deeds and written words and terming a self-defense case as someone being "gunned down"?"
1. None of us know him. From what I can gather, he was engaged in a few petty crimes, including pot use (like, well, our last three presidents) and petty theft. He could've been a scumbag, but I'm not sure I've seen enough to judge him. It's not like.. -murdered- someone or something terrible like that. At the least, I'm not sure how lack of judgement is the obviously crazy position to hold here...?
2. In any case, he was murdered in cold blood by an overzealous crazy man. He wasn't doing anything when he was gunned down except talking to his girlfriend on the phone. You think he was talking to her on his way to a robbery or something? "Sorry baby, brb, I gotta go steal some shit."
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Charkoth
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July 19th, 2012 @ 8:15AM
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| Just because the American people decide to elect criminals doesn't excuse the crimes they commit. Did you even read through his twitter account? The kid was trash, it had nothing to do with his race, he was just trash. So be it. The are probably another 20 million + kids out there just like him.
Secondly, where is your evidence he was just "talking on his phone" when he was "gunned down"? I guess Mr. Zimmerman bashed his own head against the concrete and was yelling "help" as he murderously fired round after round into his hapless victim. Ohh wait....he only fired one round...at point blank range.
Seriously do you have an semblance of thought that originates in your own mind? Now it could be that he stalked the kid down and was confronted and decided to pull his gun when he realized he bit off more than he could chew, but I wouldn't call that "Murdered in cold blood" unless your real name is Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton that is.
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Miamihrrcne
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July 19th, 2012 @ 12:32PM
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| using substances doesn't make someone a scumbag. In fact, committing crimes doesn't make someone a scumbag (not all laws should be followed anyway, such as the marijuana laws). No one has the right to tell me what to do with my own body outside of threatening with force. That makes those willing to use force to control what is mine the scumbags. I mean, if you want to call people who break the law scumbags, then our founding fathers and people who helped free slaves pre-emancipation proclamation are all scumbags. I don't consider people like Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and Paul Revere to be scumbags. That's absurd. They were fighting against unjust laws and taxes. Marijuana prohibition is an unjust law and using marijuana should be an individual's choice and not the choice of the community.
That said, Martin attacked Zimmerman and got shot. If he hasn't attacked him, the kid would probably still be alive. It is Martin's fault. |
Charkoth
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July 19th, 2012 @ 2:54PM
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| Drawing a parallel between Slavery and Marijuana law is absurd and you know it. Breaking Marijuana laws don't make you a scumbag, just a criminal.
However I wasn't trying to imply his use of marijuana made him a scumbag, but it did help paint the picture of who he was along with the theft and the fact he drove while high.
The real reason I believe Trayvon Martin is a scumbag is his No_LIMIT_NIGGA twitter account. If that isn't the definition of a "Scumbag" then what is? |
Miamihrrcne
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July 19th, 2012 @ 5:55PM
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| Slavery and marijuana laws are both about bodily autonomy that's why I brought it up. In one, someone is telling you what to do at all times, so obviously it is a different level of encroachment, but telling people they are not allowed to grow and consume marijuana is still telling people what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. |
killer6600
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July 19th, 2012 @ 6:08PM
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| lets all say the truth, george zimmerman is lucky to be alive, he pulled a gun on the only black kid not packing heat himself
btw, you know in that article the guy read through 100+ pages of tweets and the 15 most offensive tweets he could find only 2 were by trayvon, the rest were retweets. as in he might have found them funny, but we don't know, i guess you should stop trying to read into things you don't have all the facts to.
unless george zimmerman knew who he was chasing down when told by the 911 dispatcher to back off and wait for real police to arrive, he'd have no idea if the kid had a twitter account or what type of tweets he enjoyed to read and retweet, he'd also have no idea that the kid got high before in his life.
things george zimmerman knew; black kid he didn't know, wearing a hoodie, walking down a street in the rain
things george zimmerman did; called 911 saying he was afraid, followed person he was scared of, got out of his car either to confront person he was scared of, or was scared to the point he didn't realize cars are faster than black kids and he could have got away at anytime before the confrontation got physical
i guess the disconnect here is that people think you shouldn't be able to follow someone around trying to find out what they're upto, then possibly start a fight with that person, and upon starting to lose that fight shoot them and call it self defense.
you can't trust what you are told, but you can hear the 911 tapes where he's told to stay in his car, he didn't do that, i don't know what made him get out of his car, but since cars are equipped with locks i'm sure he got out on his own.
classic case of "don't start nothing, won't be nothing" bonus points to first person to name what movie thats from!
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BiVRiP
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July 19th, 2012 @ 9:17PM
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| Well said killer. |
Charkoth
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July 20th, 2012 @ 7:45AM
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| I agree with almost all of that killer, although I haven't seen any evidence he knew he was black or that had anything to do with it (but I could have missed something there). What some 911 dispatcher (I've listened to the tapes) says is irrelevant really, but I agree he decided to get out of the car to follow someone he thought was up to no good.
All I'm trying to say is
a) Trayvon isn't some upstanding individual who helped old ladies cross the street, he was as Nebu first termed a "Scumbag". I didn't find any of those tweets funny, only sad, and yes as the article states the majority of them are retweets. His character APPEARS to be such that it is very possible that the scene played out exactly as Zimmerman describes. Being a scumbag doesn't mean you deserve death, but attacking someone who is following you and getting shot and killed for it (IF that is how it played out) is.
b) Zimmerman almost certainly didn't get out his car with the intention of kill someone, if he did there is certainly no evidence to prove such. That said, terms such as "gunned down" "cold-blooded murder" and the like are not accurate.
I haven't seen any evidence at this point to suggest Zimmerman is a scumbag (accusation from relatives mean shit since they were never proven), but he may be guilty of provoking a fight (following someone at a distance isn't provoking a fight) which ended in him losing and then shooting someone for it. That is very possible as well.
What pisses me off are the people who blindly assume Trayvon is innocent just because his race and the fact that this became political because the police department didn't press charges against Zimmerman based upon the evidence in the field until they were pressured to do so.
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Charkoth
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July 20th, 2012 @ 9:29AM
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| Ohh and Miamihrrcne there are many many things we can't do with our own bodies.
I can't even buy hydrocortisone cream in a decent strength without paying to see a doctor to refill a prescription every 3 months. Having that cream without a prescription is the criminal misdemeanor equivalent to marijuana.
It is funny how so many drug abusers go out of their way to justify their criminal activity to paint themselves in a positive light. Fact of the matter is, we're ALL subject to laws we don't like, that inconvenience us, make us do things certain ways that may appear to ONLY impact us, but that doesn't justify breaking them. We have seatbelt laws, motorcycle helmet laws, etc.
I can't even fire a gun in my own yard even if the bullet never leaves my property! What you people miss is that just because you CAN use these drugs, cars,guns etc safely, doesn't mean that EVERYONE will, and thus it becomes a controlled substance, or a regulated firearm etc. We are a society built on laws and all laws can be legally appealed when necessary.
It is still totally absurd to compare slavery to marijuana laws, you're deluding yourself if you think they have anything in common. |
RowdyRoddyPiper
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July 20th, 2012 @ 6:59PM
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| i got a cool random link to share. Millions of weird creatures show up on hawaii beach
watch the video
pretty cool looking |
Miamihrrcne
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July 21st, 2012 @ 10:59AM
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| I don't use drugs, but I see that people should be allowed to use them if they want. Drug laws are a direct affront to liberty. It isn't about other people doing things correctly. It is about me being able to do as I please with my own body and my own property. |
Charkoth
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July 23rd, 2012 @ 6:27AM
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| "It is about me being able to do as I please with my own body and my own property"
Until you running through the streets naked eating the homeless...
And seriously Nebu? Linking Aljazeera as news? Do you even remember some of the shit they were broadcasting during the wars? Disgusting. |
Smokin Joe
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July 23rd, 2012 @ 7:50AM
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| Aljazeera is way more reputable than Fox News ever could dream to be.
They've made amazing strides over the years. |
Miamihrrcne
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| Charkoth: the guy that attacked and ate the guy's face in Florida at the beginning of the summer wasn't on any drugs. |
BlueFalcon
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July 23rd, 2012 @ 9:29AM
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| Miamihrrcne: Actually, the face eater had active THC in his blood, leading to the conclusion that he was high on marijuana at the time of the incident. Pot is bad, mkay.
I think you may have confused the fact that no "bath salt" drugs were found in his blood for "no drugs". So basically they found drugs, jusr not the type they were expecting.
Joe: What's your basis for claiming al-jazeera has stepped up their journalistic integrity?
Edit: damn mobile phone.
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Charkoth
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July 23rd, 2012 @ 12:21PM
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| Fox News must be the new liberal mantra to replace Bush for the fault of everything. I could care less about Fox News, I don't watch it, read it or pay attention to it along with any major news media so I wish you guys would quit bringing it up somehow to make an argument. That said, the fact you even compare Al-Jazeera to Fox news however disgusts me....but doesn't surprise me given your anti-American beliefs.
And yeah Miami THC obviously gave him a case of the munchies. You still missed the point which you can't deny. Do I have to link a few hundred insane acts or atrocities committed by people out of their minds on drugs to support drug laws? Everything should be evaluated on a case by case basis based upon probabilities, and where necessary restrictions put in place.
I don't agree with a lot of laws on a personal level but I understand the reasons they were put in place. Don't like the law, get it repealed, those are the rules. |
killer6600
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July 23rd, 2012 @ 9:03PM
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| can't really fault nebu for linking that aljazeera article, i didn't see that story anywhere on american media. |
Smokin Joe
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| Al-Jazeera's coverage of the Arab Spring was something to behold, a lot of great articles and videos. That probably helped turned the tide for me personally in recognizing the organization as a quality provider of news.
They have also been expanding into sports broadcasting getting a 2022 World Cup broadcasting deal (granted, they are a Qatari company and the games take place in Qatar) as well as muscling in on UEFA coverage.
As with most news, one really needs to read important stories from several sources to ensure that you get all the facts and Al-Jazeera has been great at filling in gaps that other sites leave out. Of course it isn't a silver-bullet news site for all your needs, but it does a great job.
I chose to bash on Fox News because I see articles here linked from their website, and I think of them in the same sentence as TMZ in how they sensationalize article titles.
but doesn't surprise me given your anti-American beliefs.
My tolerance of your opinions makes me more of an American than you could ever dream of. Your absolute intolerance of others who don't believe like you is reminiscent of a self-important Monarch.
edit: grammargh
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Charkoth
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July 24th, 2012 @ 12:16PM
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| Killer the reason you don't see it on any other media is because it is one of the most absurd "articles" I've ever read. Seriously, $32 TRILLION dollars in offshore accounts? Anyone with a simple grasp of economics and third grade mathematics would realize why that article is absurd. Coming from a Pro-Arab Anti-western Propoganda "News" organization I would sooner believe it if it were posted on Infowars (the fact it isn't lends further credence to its absurdity).
Joe, I have many many friends who don't believe as I do and I'm very tolerant of their beliefs but everyone has a limit to their tolerance. Fox news may have a political slant just as ABC or CNN does. That's a given and one of the reasons I don't watch mainstream news (the other being the fact that if it is interesting to the majority of people it likely isn't interesting to me at all). Both organizations still report relative factual information (if somewhat slanted and biased). |
Nebuchadnezzar
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July 24th, 2012 @ 1:05PM
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| I think it's made it's way to fox news now Chark. |
Smokin Joe
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July 24th, 2012 @ 1:21PM
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| Joe, I have many many friends who don't believe as I do and I'm very tolerant of their beliefs but everyone has a limit to their tolerance. Fox news may have a political slant just as ABC or CNN does.
Because they are your friends, however to complete strangers like myself or many other people on this site, you act like someone entitled. I can't count the number of times you lump any sort of counter to your opinions into just 'typical liberalthink' or attack someone as 'anti-american' or just plain old aggressively mock the person's intelligence.
That type of intolerance against those who you have never met, and thereby have no idea what their character, intellect and motivations are composed of make me wonder how you picture yourself as a Public Servant.
I'm no great upstanding person - I have plenty of faults, I've made a ton of mistakes - but I do believe in the greatness of this country as well as humanity in general. Just because I have some personal opinions about my news source (and the joke that is Fox News) you declare it another Anti-American belief with absolutely no sort of point to make in regard to what is American vs. Anti-American when it comes to news sources (..or whatever you were trying to say..).
You would have loved living during McCarthyism.
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Charkoth
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| Nebu, I can't find it on Fox anywhere in my searches but I'm seeing it on Infowars(big surprise), huffpost, and a ton of Liberal blogs.
Let's just say this is true. There is 32 TRILLION dollars of wealth sitting out there in some black hole we don't know about. Do you realize that is 2-3 times the known amount of the world's known money supply? Any economist or banker would laugh at the possibility. IF that money existed and let's say we busted all these supposed "10 million" tax evaders and repatriated those funds back into our country(assuming maybe only 1/3 to 1/2 of it is American wealth). Our entire economy would collapse. The dollar would be worth a quarter overnight. It would be akin to De Beers releasing ever diamond they had stored away on the market....diamonds would become worthless.
Joe,
If you were a complete stranger what you say would be true. I've known you on these forums for how many years now? Your responses are often very typical (as I'm sure mine should be now to you). There are few strangers on this site who post actively.
When I call someone Anti-American it isn't because I think they hate the country or want to destroy it...it is because I feel their view of how this country should be run runs contrary to its founding principles.
Liberals are mostly well intentioned people with great ideas....they just don't have much understanding of how the world works and those ideas in practice often fail because of it.
I do get pretty frustrated on this site because I spend too much time rebutting the obvious to the same group of people and the medium we communicate on is tedious and difficult to convey proper context and intent.(typing)
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Frimzy
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| Of course there were women before her. Thats why they say american. Tereshkova went to space in 63 about 20 years earlier |
killer6600
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July 26th, 2012 @ 3:28PM
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| "Liberals are mostly well intentioned people with great ideas....they just don't have much understanding of how the world works and those ideas in practice often fail because of it."
your ideas are great but our system is fucked so we cant implement them |
RowdyRoddyPiper
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July 26th, 2012 @ 6:07PM
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| Bombshell info New harvard study says fluoride reduces iq (duh its meant to)
clicky
Let the suing of colgate begin!
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killer6600
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| good job of reading rrp.
that study was at high doses, not the ones found in the watersupply
"They recommend more brain/fluoride research on children and at individual-level doses."
so basically the study said "ingesting dangerous ammounts of floride is dangerous, we think regular ammounts of floride should be studied next"
groundbreaking.
standing on the sun will kill me, i'm never going outside again, even at night, unless there's 0 moon reflecting sun deathrays |
Charkoth
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July 27th, 2012 @ 10:21AM
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| I'd hate to see what RRPs mouth looks like. |
killer6600
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| his mouth is like a black hole where only cavities and tartar can exsist....but his iq is an untouched by flouride 3784 |
Noss
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July 27th, 2012 @ 2:05PM
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| That `news` story RRP links to is actually written by anti fluoridation group (see at the bottom where it says "SOURCE NYS Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.") and basically just misinterprets the study, which was really just an analysis of a bunch of older studies so no actual new data.
What was actually found is that very high doses (far more than what is in fluoridated drinking water and also above the EPA safety levels) has a possibility of reducing IQ by a fraction of a point. Although there are still many shortcomings in the studies, like unaccounted for variables and a lack of blinding in the IQ evaluations so there might not even be an effect on IQ at all.
There were also a lot of details left out, such as the studies having been done in China (with one in Iran) based on naturally high fluoride levels in rural water wells. There were a few of the studies that were based on getting exposed to fluoride through breathing in smoke from coal burning, so not even drinking water based. Other variables not accounted for... yes.
Also it`s not some kind of revelation that high levels of fluoride (or many substances) could have a harmful effect, while small amounts provide some kind of benefit. Welcome to pretty much all medication ever. That`s why it`s called OVERDOSING, you get too high a dose and end up in toxicity land. |
killer6600
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July 27th, 2012 @ 4:09PM
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| noss, how did you have time to do all that research when you should be watching FOOTBALL
i drink water with flouride in it so i am a little dumb, but it looks like you disagree with RRP, which means you do nothing but watch FOOTBALL
i love rrp |
RowdyRoddyPiper
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| the study says it damages the brain and the usual suspects reply here defending it. i see fluoride works! oh and my mouth is nice and teeth are good i brush with "toms toothpaste" it is the best brand they have a few with no fluoride. You can find it in the toothpaste section usually at the bottom all by itself amongst the wall of toxic waste cavity causing brands that eat right thru your teeth.
or order it online
sugar doesnt eat thru teeth and cause cavitys, this does!
I know you guys are tired of the fluoride talk and so i saw this reputable posting from marketwatch and figured finally something they might take seriously. But no many of you still cant figure out you are being poisoned even when a harvard study proves it lowers iq. and thats just only one of the negative side effects. but it makes you feel smarter to just attack me . thats ok. i hope you buy some toms toothpase and get off the toxic waste.
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killer6600
Marine
July 29th, 2012 @ 4:12PM
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canada
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| YOU DIDN'T READ THE STUDY, YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ THE ARTICLE FROM YOUR BIASED WEBSITE
the gathering of information was from places with higher flouride than in the public water system, it said it might be helpful to study the ammount put in the water system (which is has, for the last half century of water flouridation)
its hard to ask real questions on the internet today because even when you wonder out loud how did building 7 collapse so fast, you get grouped in with people like rrp that think dick cheney himself was in the basement smashing the foundation with a sledgehamer |
BlueFalcon
Word To Your Mom
July 30th, 2012 @ 12:32PM
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Posts: 1288
| Re: Chevron owing Ecuador $19 billion.
I speculate that this is Ecuador extorting a gringo company. Either pay us the money or we will nationalize your assets. Or better yet, pay us the money AND we nationalize your assets down the road. That's par for the course in South America. |
Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
July 30th, 2012 @ 1:14PM
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OHIO
Posts: 2207
| North America too the way we're going. Obama and Chavez are cut from the same cloth. |
nate_orenstam
Special Ops
July 30th, 2012 @ 2:32PM
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| this is an interesting story on the ecuador situation. |
BlueFalcon
Word To Your Mom
July 30th, 2012 @ 4:37PM
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| Nate: That was an interesting, albeit long, article. Even assuming massive bias by The New Yorker, it would be difficult for me to maintain my position that this is an elaborate Ecuadorian shakedown. It would appear the government has been pretty patient.
I will submit this quote from the article, though, in Chevron's defense:
In Chevron’s reckoning, however, these environmental claims and counterclaims are all somewhat beside the point, because the company’s defense ultimately rests not on science but on law. In 1995, Texaco acknowledged that it had made a mess in the Amazon, and committed itself to doing some remediation. But the company also emphasized that it had been part of a consortium in Ecuador—one that included the national oil company—and that its stake in the partnership had been thirty-seven per cent. Texaco therefore agreed to clean up only thirty-seven per cent of the pits, even though, as the consortium’s sole “operator,” it had been responsible for both drilling the wells and digging the pits.
Texaco spent forty million dollars on the cleanup, and in 1998 the Ecuadoran government granted the company a release from any future claims against it. Chevron freely admits that large sludge pits still dot the Amazon, but denies that it has a legal obligation to clean up more of them. Instead, it suggests, that responsibility should fall to the national oil company, Petroecuador, which has managed extraction in Lago Agrio since Texaco’s departure and has been accused of polluting extensively in the region. “This is not about dirt in Ecuador,” a Chevron lawyer once remarked. “It is about a contract and how to interpret it.”
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undreaming
Kali Compton
July 30th, 2012 @ 8:39PM
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SLC, UT
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| One of the people who got stabbed at that grocery store was a co-worker of mine. He had to be hospitalized for about a month.
I'm all about people having guns! |
BiVRiP
General
July 31st, 2012 @ 2:03PM
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2003-05-11
Location:
Canada
Posts: 1884
| The more I read about that Chinese teen winning that gold swimming medal the harder it is to believe that she isn't/wasn't doping. |
nate_orenstam
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July 31st, 2012 @ 2:50PM
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| yeah i'm not arguing with you bf just providing some background. |
