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Thursday, September 27th, 2012SUGGEST NEWS

September News
Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar on September 27th, 2012 @ 12:50PM

9/27/2012

  • Pilot does 'perfect' job at JFK after nose-gear failure has passengers brace for crash landing
  • 'Happy Days' star Erin Moran homeless, report says

    9/26/2012

  • Is the era of free checking accounts over? - Hate these guys
  • Average ATM Surcharge Reaches New High
  • Young Woman Cheats Death After Being Internally Beheaded in a Car Crash
  • NFL's Final Decision TERRIBLE Call Stands
  • Picture
  • China launches aircraft carrier amid rising tensions with Japan
  • World War II is not over yet
  • Wall of Fall
  • White tiger

    9/25/2012

  • Cab brawl caught on tape - So funny

    9/24/2012

  • Gun on a plane
  • Californians flee for better-run states, study finds
  • haha
  • Soccer
  • Cool waterfalls

    9/23/2012

  • cars swallowed by grass in Taiwan
  • Migingo Island, Kenya. (i.imgur.com)
  • Cap Lincoln
  • Lazy Cat
  • Nearest McDonalds
  • Funny guy in a wheel chair
  • Anti Climb Paint
  • David Silverstein, Lyudmila Shimonova Guilty: Prison For Wealthy Seattle Couple Who Took Welfare
  • 'Homeland' and 'Modern Family' are the big winners at Emmys
  • LA preps for freeway closure and 'Carmageddon II'
  • TIL Rochus Misch, age 95, is the last surviving person to have known Hitler personally and witnessed his suicide. He worked as his personal bodyguard, courier and phone operator in the Fuhrerbunker, and still lives in the same house in Berlin where he moved upon his release from the Soviets in 1954 (express.co.uk)
  • World War II submarine veterans forced to disband national group
  • U.S. Postal Service Hopes To Deliver More Junk Mail
  • POLICE: FLIGHT ATTENDANT STOLE PASSENGER'S IPAD
  • Staten Islanders Furious As MTA Considers A $15 Toll To Cross Verrazano Bridge
  • Is that where the deficit's hiding? Obama whips out massive wad of cash to pay for sausages at deli

    9/21/2012

  • iPhone 5 launch draws large crowds across globe- Apple response to iPhone map flap: It will get better
  • 1943 Penny Fetches $1M
  • US begins test flights of MV-22 Osprey in Japan
  • Amanda Bynes Attacks Paparazzi For Not Making Her Look Beautiful, Amazing People Do That
  • Well that was fast

  • Plants vs. Zombies Dancing to "Gangnam Style" Is Incredibly Disturbing [Video]
  • U.S. Distrust in Media Hits New High
  • Pineapple
  • KIA SOUL HAMSTER 2012 - Weirdos!
  • Kids
  • Hero Pig
  • Amanda Bynes
    Charged Driving on Suspended License
    - Yay. Now hopefully she can get some jail time cuz why should these celebs get away with that shit.

  • Romneys to Release Taxes
  • Smuggled iPhone 5s Sell for as Much as $3,700 in Moscow
  • Amanda Bynes DROPPED By Agent, Publicist, Lawyer - TRAINWRECK
  • OMG their faces

    9/20/2012

  • Reminds me of drunken girls trying to pose for a picture...
  • Scumbag Bing
  • I live on a cluster of islands south-west of Iceland. Here is one of those islands (i.imgur.com) - But the house is super tilted tho
  • TIL that during WWII a German submariner accidentally flushed the toilet the wrong way, resulting in the capsule being flooded with raw sewage and forcing it to surface. It was then captured near the coast of Scotland. (suite101.com)
  • Space Ship game 4-5 people were saying how awesome this is and how addicting that they even skipped Boarderlands for this game.

    If you’ve ever had the fantasy of being a starship captain piloting through the depths of space, you need to check out this game. It’s pretty super awesome. Very high difficulty (IMO) but very rewarding gameplay. - Mike

  • Samsung expects to sue Apple over the iPhone 5
  • Thief gets $10M in luxury goods from Los Angeles-area home - Ouch
  • Navy SEAL Who Wrote Controversial Bin Laden Raid Book Worked on New Medal of Honor Game Without Permission
  • Researchers fault food stamp program for subsidizing $2B a year in sugary drinks
  • TrainingPeaks founder's video nabs driver - I hate these kind of bikers but that's just insane.
  • Poor Beaver
  • Legalized
  • Beautiful Birds
  • Google Maps, Apple Maps
  • haha
  • Cat
  • Talk like a Pirate Day
  • Officie Politics
  • NSFW: omg dying
  • Problem Child
  • Mystery of the disappearing bees: Solved!
  • Elderly woman who botched religious fresco demands royalties - The internet stuff with this is so funny
  • Pakistan hit by anti-Islam video protests - It's the religion of peace!
  • Miranda Kerr Lingerie Photoshoot Puts the MILF Back Where She Belongs, Front and Center
  • Amanda Bynes BOOTED from Gym Class For Weird Behavior - I would bet some sort of mental breakdown.
  • Amanda Bynes
    to Lindsay Lohan Karma’s a Bitch
    - This is super funny if you follow the timeline. Lindsay Loah says it's BS that Amanda Bynes does all these hit and runs, and driving without a license and is never punished. So a day(s) later, Lindsey gets arrested for a hit and run. And Amanda says Karma is a bitch! hahaa "Ultimate Karma would be if they were both driving drunk, hit each other and exploded. - Bryan"

  • Interesting Comic - I really am not a fan of that comic but this one features this comic that drags and is part of a BIG picture. It's pretty entertaining and a lot of work involved. Go to http://xkcd-map.rent-a-geek.de/ to drag the comic around.

    Or Zoomable Map Version

    "I’m quite impressed by the engineering behind it. I expected one really, really large image to be hidden behind the main image, but they actually broke it down into a grid system where they load adjacent tiles on-drag. Looking at the code, it appears to work for both mouse and touch input, which is also very cool. - Mike"

  • Al Qaeda Suspected of Killing U.S. Ambassador
  • Al Qaeda, ex-Gitmo detainee involved in consulate attack, intelligence sources say
  • Exclusive: Western report - Iran ships arms, personnel to Syria via Iraq
  • Israel stages largest snap exercise in years
  • 11 more American billionaires join Gates, Buffett charity pledge - Count me out. I want my yacht island and my islands.
  • American Airlines expects about 4,400 job cuts, warns 11,000 - Screw all these lame airlines. They're such dicks. Delta totally fucked up my suitcase, the one I got with my 5 year sword. Now I have to go on my cruise with a bunch of duct tape on it cuz there's no time to fix it.
  • Perfect Timing
  • Lionesessses
  • Photoremake
  • Hilarious Walrus
  • Robbers go after a Trucker and he calls for help then everyone beats up the robbers, funny.
  • Six million Americans will pay the health care tax rather than obtain coverage under President Obama's health care law
  • CRS report: number of able-bodied adults on food stamps doubled after Obama suspended work requirement
  • Cost of Regulations Under Obama: $488 Billion
  • Amanda Bynes
    Parents to the Rescue
    - Also, she looks ugly.

  • Bam Margera Masturbatin' Intruder Secretly LIVED in My Tree - now that is funny

    9/19/2012

  • Bank of America Hit By Cyber Attack
  • Washington man sentenced to life for killing two sex offenders
  • Judge rules that Arizona cops can check immigration statuses
  • Fat and getting fatter: U.S. obesity rates to soar by 2030 - Walllll EEEE
  • Animated Tower
  • Victory for Kate and William in historic French court case as judge blocks further publication of magazine's 'intimate' topless photos
  • 7,000 Millionaires Paid No Income Taxes in 2011
  • Protester dies after inhaling fumes from burning American flag
  • NSFW Nudity: Spider Girl
  • toupe
  • EA expands European customer service, 300 jobs created in Ireland
  • This is What a $1200 PC Gaming Case Looks Like
  • 129 inmates still on the run after escape from Mexican border prison
  • BioWare Co-Founders Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk Retire
  • Alpha closing 8 mines, cutting 1,200 jobs in all
  • Here's How 35,000 Of America's Wealthiest Households Got Off Tax-Free - How can I get on that list
  • Can You Make It Through This Post Without Having Your Mind Blown?
  • haha
  • Paperboy - One of my fav arcade games
  • Woman who falsely claimed she was raped by three men because she regretted having sex with them jailed for two years
  • NYC dirtiest U.S. city?
  • Apple shares hit $700 for first time
  • UK Joins Persian Gulf Naval War Games amid Iran-Israel Tensions
  • Iran deploys Russian-made submarine in Gulf
  • Libya: We gave US three-day warning of Benghazi attack - Idiots
  • MILITARY: Two Marines assigned to Miramar unit killed in insurgent attack - Kill those fuckers!

    9/18/2012

  • Dennis Hopper
    9-Year-Old Daughter Inherits $3 Mil

  • Coin Belt Buckle
  • Shaun White Arrested For Being Wasted Trashing Hotel Room
  • 'Trillions of carats' lie below a 35-million-year-old, 62-mile diameter asteroid crater in eastern Siberia known as Popigai Astroblem. The Russians have known about the site since the 1970s.
  • G.I. Joe named 20th Century's top toy
  • Close to 1,000 Ferraris smash world record at Silverstone
  • More Nude Princess Pics (story, not pictures)
  • 1,100+ Rock Band DLC songs are going on sale this week

    9/17/2012

  • Nevada man dies with $200 in bank, $7M in gold hidden inside home
  • AMANDA BYNES
    Barricades Self For 2 Hours In Dressing Room

  • Obama’s Security Breach In Libya Is Ignored By American Media
  • NSFW SOFTCORE (haha) A nice bike ride
  • Comic
  • Minecraft Cake
  • Banned Iphone Promo (hah)
  • Report: Samsung Galaxy S4 due out in February - TT
  • Amanda Bynes Pulled Over By Cops AGAIN
    Car Impounded
    - Hows she going to get in more trouble if she loses her car. Get another car!

  • Jim Carrey
    Rebounding with Hot NEW Piece of Ass
    - Now that is living!

  • Anti-Muslim Film
    The Man Behind the Movie First Photo
    - wow that's the worst movie ever.

  • Seth MacFarlane
    on 'Ted' Sequel 'We're Thinkin' About It'

  • Iran atomic chief says 'explosives' cut power at facility
  • What should they dress up as? See comment

    9/15/2012

  • $11.9 Million Gets You “The House That the Commodore 64 Built”
  • FBI: 'Bucket List Bandit' caught in Oklahoma
  • How women made porn fashionable
  • Get Out!: $3,500 Fridge With A DOOR INSIDE THE DOOR

    9/14/2012

  • Delivery times rise for iPhone 5
  • My friend made this "divorce cake".
  • Topless Kate Middleton Pics Are On The Internet
  • American Killed in Libya Was on Intel Mission to Track Weapons
  • 500 Million Mansion
  • Don't do drugs
  • Iphone 10
  • Picture
  • Breaking Bad RPG
  • The Wire RPG
  • Sally Struthers Arrested for Drunk Driving - SOUTH PARK
  • Texas Police Kill Unarmed Man Before Confiscating Witness Camera and Deleting Images Police in Texas shot an unarmed man 41 times, then turned around and confiscated another man’s camera after he started taking photos and shooting video of the bloody aftermath (pixiq.com)
  • An extremely rare white rhino, of which there are only four left in the entire world, in the Kenyan Ol Pejeta reservation, roams about the plains flanked by armed bodyguards (i.imgur.com)
  • Mila

    9/12/2012

  • Amanda Bynes
    Cops Scared to Death She'll Kill Someone

  • Amanda Bynes Smokin' From Drug Pipe Driving Illegally
  • ABC News Sued for $1.2 BILLION
    ... Over Pink Slime!
    - The future is here. Solient Green. It's PEOPLE!

  • Cat saves owner's life
  • Foam's up: Surfers take rare opportunity to ride fluffy waves after flooding covers coast in 330ft of yellow froth
  • Too-wit too-who are you? New species of 'owl faced' monkey with a bright blue bottom discovered - KILL IT! It's EVIL!
  • Michael Madsen Busted for DUI
    in Badass Hot Rod

  • Apple sells 84 million iPads through June
  • iPhone 5 announced and priced, available September 21
  • US Official Killed in Libya Was a Senior EVE Online Player [UPDATE] - That's horrible :(
  • Japanese island overrun by rabbits, tourists
  • Stuck the landing
  • Flights Currently in the Air - F-ing crazy. Move the map to the US. Can you imagine all those planes were grounded for 911? How many people are up in the air at the moment i wonder. 100,000s? With all those planes up it's hard to imagine they never crash or are attacked. Look at how many commercial pilots there are
  • Russian ships displayed at DNC tribute to vets

    9/11/2012

  • Thug
  • Joe Francis LOSES ANOTHER
    $20 MILLION

  • Emma Watson And The Chamber of Stupid Nipple Pasties I Hate You So Much
  • 5 Life Lessons Learned from Old School Cartoons
  • Epic Kung Fu Kick To Help Guards With Attacker
  • TIL that a 14 year old boy has managed to have over 12 billion trees planted all over the world (telegraph.co.uk)
  • Scott Van Duzer's Big Apple Pizza Gets Negative Yelp Reviews After Owner Bear-Hugs Obama - Yeah that does seem jerky
  • Scotland's games industry adds 'no value' suggests study
  • Amanda Bynes
    Pulled Over in L.A. After License Suspended
    - So lame she got away

  • Tom Arnold
    Roseanne Tattoo Was The Worst Mistake of My Life
    - Scary

  • IRS pays $104 million to whistleblower

    9/10/2012

  • Sears & Zombies?
  • Drink Combo
  • The Dictator
  • Billionare Lady
  • Green Prix
  • Gifsound: 88 mph ( funny)

    9/8/2012

  • Gif: Dope as me

    9/6/2012

  • Gif: Rolling
  • Funny Picture
  • Church of Scientology Spied On Southpark Creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone, Found Nothing
  • Kate Middleton's Cousin I Can Get Naked Like Prince Harry Too! - Her tats are dumb but from this distance she looks hot
  • Amanda Bynes Driver's License Suspended
  • http://scott.ytmnd.com/
  • Gifsound
  • Reddit: Justiceporn (SFW, interesting stories of justice)

    9/5/2012

  • FLASH!!
  • LET HTE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
  • Gifsound: Drop the Bass 2
  • Gif Sound: Drop the bass
  • Mel Gibson's Ex-Wife
    Gets Big Piece of Pie In Divorce

  • Deepwater Horizon: BP accused of gross negligence
  • McDonalds
  • Harrison Ford to the Rescue
  • How to ruin a DS
  • Cat
  • Midget
  • Slurpee
  • Lumberjacks

    9/4/2012

  • Impunity for the rich and famous leaves Thais outraged
  • Cop Claims Teen Assaulted Him, Video Shows He Assaulted Teen
  • 'Friday' Star Tommy Lister I Committed $3.8 MIL Mortgage Fraud
  • As World War II engulfed Europe, the Allies learned of German atrocities at the Auschwitz concentration camp from a remarkable source: A Polish army captain named Witold Pilecki had volunteered to enter the camp in 1940 in order to gather intelligence and to organize its prisoners.

  • Food-Stamp Use Climbs to Record, Reviving Campaign Issue
    (47 million)

  • The United States Treasury reports that the total public outstanding debt is: $16,015,769,788,215.80. This is the first time in American history debt has eclipsed the $16 trillion mark. - Bring back Reagan or Clinton.
  • Griselda Blanco 'Queen of Cocaine' Shot to Death in Colombia - I'm sure she was much hotter!

    9/3/2012

  • Swimming on a Pool
  • Replica of Knight Rider's KITT for sale

    9/2/2012

  • Red States Are The Real Welfare States
  • In 2010: GE made $14.2billion in profits, got a check from the IRS for $3.2billion AND still laid off 21,000 workers. Please, tell me again how lower corporate taxes create jobs. (self.politics)

    9/1/2012

  • F1 Crash
  • Police: NH woman arrested 4 times in 26 hours
  • ICE chief of staff resigns after allegations of lewd conduct
  • Feds end probe of 'America's toughest sheriff' Joe Arpaio; no charges

    Source: Drudge
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    Miamihrrcne
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    September 1st, 2012 @ 5:49PM

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    I think the "toughest sheriff" thing is just a ploy and not true. If he was actually such a tough sheriff, AND he was so public, someone would have shot him in the face by now.
    Wootah
    non-leet

    September 2nd, 2012 @ 12:01AM

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    What are you talking about miami? It is jut a title?
    And what does being a tough sheriff have to do with getting shot in the face?
    Miamihrrcne
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    September 2nd, 2012 @ 6:36AM

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    "Tough sheriffs" that are publicly visible make dangerous enemies. If he was really cracking down on people (especially caustically like is portrayed by the media) then someone would have shot him by now.
    Miamihrrcne
    Marine

    September 2nd, 2012 @ 6:42AM

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    I mean, come on. Making criminals wear pink against their will and live in a tent city is fucking crazy. It only takes one of those criminals to be offended by the treatment and get a gun (which is easy as shit to obtain in Arizona) and shoot this guy.

    That's why I doubt it is as bad as Arpaio and his tv shows make it out to be. "Authority figures" in history that do lavish acts like the ones portrayed in the media tend to end up face down in a ditch somewhere, because it only takes pissing off one person to end up dead with something like this.
    The Fu
    Peon

    September 2nd, 2012 @ 7:02AM

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    I remember seeing a show about him years ago where they basically said that he was very tough but also fair and, after a while, even somewhat liked by some of the people he was tough on.
    Wootah
    non-leet

    September 3rd, 2012 @ 12:03AM

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    Unfortunately there are no breakdowns on the federal spending vs tax dollars collected anywhere that I can find. I would like to see where the money is split. Especialy spending on federal lands, each of the entitlement programs (SS, Medicare, medicaid), and military spending.

    I would also like to know how they handled multi-state corporations for calculating taxes. Was the money paid by google across all 50 states only alloted to california?
    Charkoth
    Right Wing Extremist

    September 3rd, 2012 @ 8:43AM

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    Yeah those red-state-blue state comparisons are bullshit. If I recall they include infrastructure and such and include social security and medicare which is no a federal "handout". Those people paid into it. Many things should be taken into consideration like age of population, number of illegal immigrants, infrastructure expenses per person etc.

    And on GE, you can't make an argument of one massive multinational corporation and apply it to all the other corporations, the vast majority of which pay taxes and receive no federal subsidies. Isn't the head of GE Obama's economic czar or something? Jeoffrey Immelt I think.

    Disastrous Fate
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    September 3rd, 2012 @ 9:43AM

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    " If I recall they include infrastructure and such and include social security and medicare which is no a federal "handout""

    So, let me get this straight.. we don't include SS, Medicare, and infrastructure, and I'm assuming you'd also like us not to include military spending and Medicaid. That takes away.. about 90% of the federal budget.

    In any case, here is entitlement spending as % of income at the county-level: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/12/us/entitlement-map.html?ref=us

    I also found the data used to establish spending somewhere. It provides a quite detailed breakdown, although it's sort of hard to put together a quick and easy "big picture." http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/fas-10.pdf

    I haven't found good statewide data, and, unfortunately, the Census stopped doing this around 2010. That's the most up-to-date data on this I know of. Maybe some other part of the census or the treasury or something has more.
    airety
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    September 3rd, 2012 @ 11:49AM

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    Here you go,

    http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/sr139.pdf

    Also, Google would be bad example of paying taxes.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-21/google-2-4-rate-shows-how-60-billion-u-s-revenue-lost-to-tax-loopholes.html
    Charkoth
    Right Wing Extremist

    September 3rd, 2012 @ 5:58PM

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    The idea of the accusation DF is to attempt identifying Republicans as bigger leeches than Democrats. I recall discussing this some time ago in detail, but you have to look at entitlement programs only. If people are paying into it such as Social Security + Medicare then where they live is irrelevant as everyone uses those equally (for the most part). Medicaid breakdown would be interesting, as would Welfare and Foodstamps. I just think such a massive generalization is pointless, especially since 4 of those "Top 10" states linked were Democratic states anyways.

    Are they including corporate taxes as income as well as income tax? What constitutes "Welfare"?
    So many states have switched sides back and forth or are typically battleground states as to make no difference in this anyways. Rural Areas are going to always receive more aid than urban areas overall.
    Bashkir
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    September 3rd, 2012 @ 6:40PM

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    "The wealthy (aka Romney) paid 13% of their income in taxes - much lower than middle class Americans!" I stopped reading right there. How about 40% of Americans pay NO taxs?
    Wootah
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    September 3rd, 2012 @ 9:09PM

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    Thanks for the link Disastrous. I spent quite a while on the medicaid/income support. Despite the red and blue link that nebu had in the original post, it looks like most every county in a given state exceeds the national average. Because things are Per capita it makes things a hard comparison to go by.

    IN my state of utah for example on income support, San Juan and Morgan counties are VERY sparsely populated, but one is Well under and one is Way over the national average. But then SLC is slightly below the national average but I am sure gives out FAR more total. Anyway, bookmarked for future research and for future debate. Thanks again!
    Mathias
    Peon

    September 4th, 2012 @ 7:00AM

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    The writer of that article on aid writes like a rabid 18 year old. Even if you have good points (and/or facts), if you cannot communicate with some decency your arguments sound weak.
    Smokin Joe
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    September 4th, 2012 @ 11:42AM

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    "The wealthy (aka Romney) paid 13% of their income in taxes - much lower than middle class Americans!" I stopped reading right there. How about 40% of Americans pay NO taxs?

    Because they don't earn enough of an income to pay taxes on. Why does that stop you from reading the article? Isn't that kind of like comparing apples to oranges?
    Charkoth
    Right Wing Extremist

    September 4th, 2012 @ 12:42PM

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    Well anyone who knew anything about taxes in this country would know the "Wealthy" of Romney's caliber pay on average 21-23% in effective taxes (The 13% he was quoting which is 15.4% this year)....still much less than "lower-middle class" which pays next to nothing if not nothing depending on how many kids they have.

    Why read anything when it starts off with twisted facts meant to misdirect you? I'm sick to death of combating ignorance espoused by people every day that they pick up on the internet. Grow a fucking brain and think for yourself. Stop getting your fucking information from Reddit, addictinginfo, Motherjones, Rushlimbaugh, or other horribly slanted sites if you're going to start shitting it out all over the internet like it was an original thought you had. I mean I could come to the defense of GE but what is the point? You can't fix stupid and you can't reason with people who have no interest in being reasonable.

    Smokin Joe
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    September 4th, 2012 @ 12:50PM

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    Well anyone who knew anything about taxes in this country would know the "Wealthy" of Romney's caliber pay on average 21-23% in effective taxes (The 13% he was quoting which is 15.4% this year).

    I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know in your typical snide way. No wonder the GOP can't attract moderates to save their life.
    Charkoth
    Right Wing Extremist

    September 4th, 2012 @ 1:59PM

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    Patience has it's limits. The government publishes IRS tax data with all of these statistics in an easily understood format on irs.gov every year. Do people go to the source for their information? No....they go to Reddit or Twitter. There are no moderates worth the name any more in this country. Neither side is trying to appeal to them.
    Smokin Joe
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    September 4th, 2012 @ 2:21PM

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    Neither side is trying to appeal to them.

    They still exist and quite a lot of them are former Republicans. The GOP lost them 4 years ago and have done little to nothing to get them back.
    Charkoth
    Right Wing Extremist

    September 4th, 2012 @ 2:25PM

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    Keep telling yourself that. 2010 never happened. Believing something doesn't make it True.
    Charkoth
    Right Wing Extremist

    September 4th, 2012 @ 2:33PM

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    And for the record the GOP really didn't lose people, McCain just didn't inspire them. I so didn't want to vote for McCain but Ohio was important to the election so I did. Who knows maybe Romney won't enough either, but we're seeing a lot more attrition in the Democratic part now too.

    You can only put so much fresh paint on an old whore before no one wants to give her a ride.
    meorah
    Marine

    September 4th, 2012 @ 8:09PM

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    "Do people go to the source for their information? No....they go to Reddit or Twitter."

    When the source won't release his past 10 years of tax records, speculation is the only option.

    yay twitter and reddit.

    also, I have no problem whatsoever with people copping attitudes if their arguments are sourced, reasoned, and contain any type of context to explain them. in fact, it's probably the only reason to go to all that trouble on an internet post that will be buried in less than a month. If you have the right answer and the proof in a zero sum game, rub it in your opponents' faces for all I care.

    but faux outrage and baseless assertions with token links just make me roll my eyes. I'd love to be convinced to vote Republican again, but they just keep trying to get all the people I disdain to vote for them too.

    I'd rather be a happy communist/marxist/socialist than a frustrated social conservative who keeps pushing independent voters away with their ill-formed logic.
    Teggy
    Peon

    September 4th, 2012 @ 10:44PM

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    Here`s one little fact that I NEVER see come up in a discussion like this. Someone HAS to do the jobs that pay next to little. Not everyone can have a "comfortable" salary. Since people doing jobs that have to be done (someones got to work at fast food joints, or as janitors!) don`t get paid enough to live off comfortably, taking money out in the form of taxes would just add insult to injury. If minimum wage was actually higher, and people got paid more, they would have enough money to pay taxes, but then, their anual income would be just what it is now without them paying taxes. This in essence would just be corporations paying the workers more, but that extra money goes towards taxes. This effectively corporations would actually be paying taxes. I think in this way more people would be happy. Everone would "pay" taxes, and in a way this would be a roundabout way of raising taxes on the wealthiest companies.
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    "Someone HAS to do the jobs that pay next to little"

    No they don't. They could tell taco bell to piss off and go live in a one-room cabin down by walden pond if they wanted.

    The jobs that pay crap don't pay crap just to keep the little guy down. They pay crap because any 15 year old with zero work experience and english as a second language can do them successfully and thus there will never be a reason to try to retain people. Just replace them as there is a constant supply of 15 year olds looking for work.

    "comfortable" salaries are what you get when you build a career with a specialized set of knowledge that requires patience, study, experience, and tenacity. Also there will be significant crappy work involved that your teachers failed to mention when telling you how you were going to change the world.

    As there are only a limited number of people with the mental faculties for this who also have not managed to get themselves thrown in jail for 20 years and have shown that they are able to do the work and have the ambition to keep pushing when other people just throw their hands up in the air, they get paid. The owners would rather pay them less, but they risk losing key talent to competition and a skilled worker is a very valuable cog in a business owner's finances.

    Also, the fast food joints have only been around for less than 100 years so to use a phrase like "have to be done" is a bit presumptuous.

    As for your scenario that all of this crazy talk is about, the government has been doing that for as long as there have been dollar bills. It's called inflation, and rich people know how to abuse the hell out of it.
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    And for the record the GOP really didn't lose people, McCain just didn't inspire them.

    I always thought the exodus began with President George W. Bush running on a platform of small govt then ballooning the govt.
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    When the source won't release his past 10 years of tax records, speculation is the only option.

    Why does he have to release them? Has every presidential candidate released 10 years of tax records? I recall John Kerry's wife never released a single return and she was worth twice what Romney was worth. How many millions did she have stuffed in overseas accounts? Who knows and honestly who cares? When and why did we start caring about tax returns? From a religious perspective I can definitely understand not wanting to publish how much you've given to your church for it is written that people who make it known what they give receive; their rewards will be on earth from the praise of that charity, and those who give secretly build their rewards in heaven.

    Why shouldn't Romney release his Diary and all of his emails for the last ten years too? I mean there has to be something in those someone could take offense to that could cost help Obama win the election!

    The best part of this whole "tax return" nonissue is Romney was obviously not audited, and the IRS accepted his return so he did nothing illegal or wrong. Obama and the libs are just trying to get Romney to do their dirty work for them because they have nothing of substance to accuse him of other than their usual run of the mill greedy capitalist garbage.
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    I don't know that Bush ever really ran on a conservative platform. I wasn't particularly political until after 9/11. Bush did feel taxes were too high from the Clinton years, and that he had weakened our military too much.

    Plenty of conservatives out there won't vote if their candidate smells like a dreaded moderate like McCain was.
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    Meorah You`re right, it is just inflation.

    However, I stand by the fact that people do have to do the jobs no one wants to do, and as long as someone has to do them (if you want everyone to aspire to being more than a janitor)then who the hell is going to clean bathrooms at your local zoo or amusement park? If people are going to say "well 40% of people don`t even pay taxes!" they need to understand that the reason most of these people don`t pay taxes is that they can barely live off what they do make! Since you make a good point that the wealthy abuse the hell out of inflation, then perhaps they should be regulated... oh wait I`m guessing you`re against all form of regulation even though you admit their abuse of the system is wrong.
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    so if the irs doesn't audit you you're clean and clear 100% not guilty of doing anything fishy with taxes? i guess it's only cheating if you get caught really rings true.

    also if you want to compare the wife of a candidate to an actual candidate and think it's the same thing then ok, go ahead.

    republicans are the kings of the non issue and for the first time the other side pushes back and it's oh no woe is me.

    and going back to what teggy said, yes there is a finite ammount of resources, i've never understood how people think the economy can just keep growing and growing every year all the time with no end in sight.
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    got a wild link for ya. the bankers are going to force greeks to work 6 day weeks. All the economists i listen to say pay attention to whats going on in greece this is the stuff that will happen in the U.S.
    only one day off slave! kinda sounds like egypt from the 10 commandments movie
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    The IRS does internal audits of all large returns. You think someone can take probably 6-7 million dollars in deductions and no one is going to check the paperwork?

    And how is the wife of the candidate not the same? They're fucking married! So you're saying it would be OK if Mitt were doing anything wrong but he was funneling all of his income through his wife instead of himself? That kind of blatant stupidity is the reason I have so little patience with people any more. You guys just pull anything you want out of your ass to support your absurd beliefs...it would be funny if it weren't destroying the country. Maybe if the majority of political discourse discussed the issues instead of personal attacks on candidates we wouldn't be stuck with an election between two flawed candidates every time.

    The entire economy is a giant pyramid scheme, it is built on the backs of our (working) youth. As our population growth slows, so does our GDP. Slowing population growth and the fact that the US isn't (and couldn't remain so) the dominant country with no equal in the world any more means we will level off with the rest of the world in terms of wealth. How fast that occurs depends on the policies of our government but short of another giant world war that doesn't significantly impact us, it is inevitable.
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    I love that RRP used to come into these posts and link articles that came from fringe lunatic webpages or their personal youtube channels. And we all called him crazy.

    Now he links articles that were hosted on drudgereport and he seems downright sane!

    RRP! Why aren't you posting on your blog? Too much D3? What paragon level are you? Add me!
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    I don't think the tax-return issue is that huge of a deal at all, however it is interesting that the last two GOP candidates haven't released diddly compared to candidates going back to around 1980. Who knows what that means, and I don't really want to go into the whole "well, he shouldn't have anything to worry about if he did nothing wrong" argument, because that shit is whack.

    Seemed like candidates were rather willing to release that info until recently for whatever reason.
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    "well, he shouldn't have anything to worry about if he did nothing wrong" argument, because that shit is whack

    Seemed like candidates were rather willing to release that info until recently for whatever reason.


    The problem is politics is no longer politics, it is about disinformation. People associate "Swiss Bank account", "Cayman Islands" etc with all of these falsehoods. A legal deduction is now a "tax loophole". Instead of going after the people who WRITE THE SHIT INTO LAW, they go after people and companies who follow that law in the way it was intended. Yeah I know there are some REAL loopholes out there, but most people don't even understand their own taxes and can't comprehend the difference between a real loophole (like taking a "farm equipment" deduction on a hummer) to taking advantage of a legal deduction. Income made overseas that never touched the US shouldn't be taxed. If it is brought into the US it should be taxed. Pretty cut and dry and simple.

    Obama ran on a platform of unprecedented openness and transparency and criticized Bush for keeping everything behind closed doors. Yet now Obama is just like him in that respect. Why? Because when the media on both sides of the aisle want to attack you personally whether merited or not, you learn that the less information available about you and what you're doing, the less people have to pick apart and attack. It is sad that our politics has become this. Remember when the media got a hold of Sarah Palin's emails and wanted people to go through them looking for dirt? That type of shit makes me sick.

    There is plenty to criticize about candidates positions and views without getting into pointless attacks on how they manage their finances, personal lives, or religion.



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    The problem is politics is no longer politics, it is about disinformation.

    While the game of politics has been played for a long, long time - I think the current incarnation could be pointed to beginning around 2000-2004. The Swift Boat attacks kind of stick out in my mind as well as the smearing of McCain.

    I mean, Bush was able to use Kerry's military service against him. At that point I knew he didn't stand a chance in the election. Mr. Rove is an evil genius.

    There is plenty to criticize about candidates positions and views without getting into pointless attacks on how they manage their finances, personal lives, or religion.

    Is wild speculation still ok?
    Charkoth
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    People are free to speculate but when speculation becomes the talking points of the party, what does that say about our direction as a country?

    I confess to believing the whole swift boats attacks in 2004 and I even bought their book. Personally I think most of what they said is true (and you would too if you read the book). I still think Kerry is scum (just like John Edwards) and I have a feeling of disgust for him that I have none of for Obama or even Biden. That said it was not officially embraced by the Republican party or Bush (that I recall), only outside political groups. Now these type of attacks are becoming the centerpoints of each party.

    I'm just saying the more time we spend on these speculations of wrongdoing in order to influence people, the less time the candidates have and need to worry about talking about solutions. Neither side that I've heard has a clear solution to our problems only some general direction on what they want to do. Maybe if everyone started clamoring for that instead of Obama's Birth Certificate, or Mitt Romney's tax records, we'd actually find out how much we really support our candidates.

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    swift boats weren't officially embraced like the birthers aren't officially embraced.

    but no one is telling them to shut up either.

    you talk about john kerry's wife like they married at 20 and started the ketchup company together and to avoid looking like a big corporate guy he put everything in his wifes name....where she not only inherited it all, they didn't get married till he was in his 50's.

    no one talks about solutions, the only solution is to raise taxes and cut spending, and the first candidate to say that in an election is the first one to start writing his concession speech.

    people care more about whats coming out of a snooki or who's fucking who in the ass while calling it marriage or a civil union or who's thinking about aborting what.

    man it's frustrating
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    man it's frustrating

    Yeah it is.
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    $104 Million... that is a hell of a lot of money... and since it is from the IRS, I guess that would make it tax free? Sadly it is just another rich banker, how would the common joe ever be able to blow the whistle on a huge amount of tax fraud and be able to collect?
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    A "Common Joe" is never going to have the trust or face the risk of pissing off a bunch of millionaires and billionaires who have no compunction committing massive tax fraud. The idea of a 100 million dollar "bounty" out there will make any of these guys who are hiding money think twice and now that someone was successfully paid such an absurd sum, maybe more of these guys will be willing to betray their employers. I'm all for this kind of common sense law.
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    that`s not a thug that`s two midgets standing on the others shoulder.
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    I'd bet my paycheck on who he's voting for Crowsey.
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    i'll take that bet charkoth

    even if 90% of black people vote for obama
    i'd be shocked if more than 30% of black people vote
    add in that he might be from a state trying to prevent people from voting.

    there's a good chance he won't vote at all!
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    95% actually killer, but good point.

    I guess it depends on how many people their "turn out the vote" drives get to bus to the voting booths.
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    i like the new headline "nyc dirtiest city" its funny even back during george washingtons days and the revolutionary war george washington had to spend a few days in nyc and even then he said "this is the most disgusting dirtiest city ive ever seen" and was reluctant to fight any british in that cesspit...and that was 200 years ago hehe
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    i like the new headline "nyc dirtiest city" its funny even back during george washingtons days and the revolutionary war george washington had to spend a few days in nyc and even then he said "this is the most disgusting dirtiest city ive ever seen" and was reluctant to fight any british in that cesspit...and that was 200 years ago hehe

    And yet right now (as it has been for quite some time now), it's the capital of the world.
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    And yet right now (as it has been for quite some time now), it's the capital of the world.

    Which is why it is fitting that it is also the dirtiest city. Thankfully Chicago wins the most corrupt...
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    Im sure you guys love looking at beautiful pics as much as i do. this guy right here has an amazing album of pics as he traveled all over europe on his honda scooter. check them out. some pics are so good they might be your new wallpaper. Click on the first pic then browse by using the arrows so each pics fills your screen
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    FTL is awesome. I backed it on Kickstarter, and it has not disappointed. I'd read up on it first to get a sense for what it is, but I've definitely been enjoying it.
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    The kids who got run over didn't deserve it. But their parents did. Teaching kids to throw rocks at vehicles is disgusting, and the kids will not soon forget what happened to them. Hopefully when they're older they'll realize how crappy their parents were.

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    Faster Than Light is awesome. It does have a high difficulty though. Unlocking the ships and layouts is tough!
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    I am waiting for FTL to get patched a little so there is a bit more diversity in events and outcomes.
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    Brazilian Portuguese for Pineapple: Abacaxí
    xí at the end is pronounced 'she' in English.
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    I live on Staten Island, the 15$ toll increase is gonna blow hard. Thank god I don't drive across often. So any of you complaining about your tolls you have no idea how lucky you are.....
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    I live on Staten Island, the 15$ toll increase is gonna blow hard. Thank god I don't drive across often. So any of you complaining about your tolls you have no idea how lucky you are.....

    That shit would suck. I use the Verrazano/278 to get the hell outta NYC without going thru manhattan/jersey.

    EZPass also makes it really, really easy to forget how much it costs to drive around.
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    Yeah I spend a good $60/month on EZpass myself. I'd say it is worth it considering I have a 40 mile commute and if I couldn't drive 90MPH it would be unbearable.
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    EZPass is one of my favorite inventions of all time.

    It makes traveling so much quicker and less painful, and it helps Highway Departments gather traffic data.


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