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Gunderson
Peon
July 25th, 2009 @ 5:25AM
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New York
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| Don`t use pistols, they are a waste. Small guns is a good perk to tag, as rifles and shotguns are considered small guns. Also, tag either science or lockpicking but build both of them up, you`ll need them.
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Disastrous Fate
General
July 25th, 2009 @ 8:16AM
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| I beat that game last year. Honestly, just stick to fighting dudes you can beat, level up, get new weapons, and then fight slightly harder dudes. It`s a badass game though. It`s good that you`re finally going after it... |
jdLordHelmet
Good is Dumb
July 25th, 2009 @ 8:20AM
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| Probably one of my favorite games ever.
Small weapon is probably the best offensive skill. Don't put points into both that and energy weapons, just choose one and sell all of the other ones you find. You don't see energy weapons until late in the game, or when you get leveled up. Lots of agility is good for using small weapons.
Here is a guide on gamefaqs for building your character. It doesn't really have spoilers and stuff, it just goes over the stats and skills and tells you what's worth using and what's not.
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nate_orenstam
Special Ops
July 25th, 2009 @ 11:21AM
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| man, 7 hr of gameplay in one day
i don't know how you do it with a kid, not to mention two, geoff. i haven't played a game for 7 hr in a day for a couple of years.
fallout 3 is fun. hope it doesn't crash as much for you as it ended up doing with me. don't build up any stat beyond about 80 or 85, iirc--the bobblehead adds 10? and then items can easily add another 5 or so. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
July 25th, 2009 @ 5:01PM
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Posts: 3637
| I played 7 hours cuz they went to the circus. |
what316
Shithead
July 25th, 2009 @ 7:14PM
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TX
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| Very impressive game, just make sure you do all the content because when you complete the dad quest line it`s game over. I rerolled my character a few times ended up going through the game with good kharma. Now im playing on the windows live thing for xbox achievements and trying to stay evil. |
nate_orenstam
Special Ops
July 25th, 2009 @ 8:04PM
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| i'm getting the family a circus pass |
DeuceOfSpades
Kali Compton
July 25th, 2009 @ 8:51PM
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| I would recommend NOT playing without at least a few mods. Mods significantly increase the enjoyment of the game, because it's so dumbed down (rads decay and mean nothing, combat is way too easy, etc.) that no real effort is needed to survive.
I have the following mods installed:
+ DarNified UI (UI mod that makes the menus a whole lot cleaner looking)
+ Fallout Wanderers edition (difficulty and immersion mod: weapons all do double damage, radiation is actually something you care about now, crippled limbs cause real penalties, etc.)
+ Weapon Mod Kits: add laser sights, make semi-auto weapons into auto-weapons, add scopes, etc. (buy these mods from vendors or find them)
+ Mart's Mutant Mod: I have the "increased spawns" and "zones respawn" options. Basically, double the amount of monsters in the overworld and pretty much every dungeon that is not a quest line dungeon will have monsters and treasure respawn
+ 15 Day Respawn: monsters only respawn after 15 days, instead of the default 3 days
At the very least, I highly recommend you use Fallout Wanderer's Edition ("FWE"). The game actually becomes scary and challenging. Note that you need a load order mod (e.g. Fallout Mod Manager) to load the mods to the game in the correct order without bugs/crashes happening.
Make sure you're updated to the latest patch (1.6)! Otherwise, the game is very buggy. The latest patch fixed a lot of long-standing problems and bugs.
I've been playing Fallout 3 a lot and am having a blast.
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Trainwreck
Marine
July 26th, 2009 @ 11:15AM
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| My tip: get the alien pistol ASAP and have fun. It usually results in one shot kills of everything, but you only get like 120 shots. |
Bruiser
Marine
July 27th, 2009 @ 6:48AM
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| I build spreadsheets for pretty much all my hobbies. Any interest in my sending it to you? Even if you don`t use the `character builder` template that I have (which is mostly a manual skill-point-advice system), you could still probably get a lot of use from it. It has six tabs:
1) A one-pager of general advice to newbies that I made for a friend.
2) A `character build` sheet that helps guide you to getting all your skills to 100 with a minimum of fuss.
3) A searchable, sortable list of all skill book locations, and you can mark with an "X" the ones you find so that if you need a few more you know where to go.
4) The same as #2 but for bobbleheads.
5) A list of all perks along with my subject `rating` of how good they are.
6) A sample character that I built showing you how to use the character template.
Even if you don`t care about #2, the other four you`d probably find really useful. I`ll be happy to send it to anybody who`s interested.
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Charkoth
Right Wing Extremist
July 27th, 2009 @ 8:57AM
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| Fallout3 was a great timesink, but the AI of the enemy is pretty terrible. After you kill so many dozen of each of the limited number of mobs you get tired of it.
That being said the game is great to just play through and finish. Unless you are a bit OCD, I don't think it is worth making more to the game than it came packaged with. The expansion packs may be worth playing, I've never tried them.
I collected all of the bobblehead dolls, and pretty much did 75% of all the side missions and what not before I got thoroughly bored and I'm more OCD than most.
Another annoyance is the complete lack of a cash sink. I think when I finally beat it I had 20,000 bottlecaps and thousands of most ammunition including about 100 "Mini-nukes" which I never found anything worth using on. |
covact
Baron
July 27th, 2009 @ 9:34AM
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| Fallout 3 on the 360 w/ expansion packs was the most fun. I would like to brag that I got 100% completion on including all the bobble heads. The game could be considered easy unless you set the game to hard, otherwise it defaults to easy. I personally took pride in collecting all the times of weapons including the ones you can make.
A tip would be to map out before hand what perk and stats you want to end with. Its easy to screw up half way and then regret it. If your going for all the achievements make sure to make a save file before the end so you can get the Moral 3(Good, Neutral, Bad)
BTW you will need a DART Gun, it reallllllly help. |
Blazer
Instigator
July 27th, 2009 @ 8:06PM
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| Tips:
- Invest heavily in Repair. It really helps with gun/armor consolidation and effectiveness while out on the field.
- If you gain an ally in battle, remember that you can trade equipment and offload some weight onto them.
- Don't invest in Swift Learner or Here and Now perks. There's a good chance you'll reach the lvl cap of 20 before game completion, so these are a waste.
- Don't begin a game by maximizing your stat point in any given special, when you can always improve them by one point with a bobblehead. Investing heavily in Intelligence early is wise because it gives you more stat points. Wouldn't hurt to research the location of this specific bobblehead and make a b-line for it after leaving the vault.
- Abandoned vehicles on the road can be exploded, often wiping out entire packs of enemies if in close proximity. It's equivalent to a mini-nuke think.
- By the end of the game ammo and bottlecaps likely won't be an issue. Don't trouble yourself with constant selling trips as it only delays progress.
- The dart gun rocks against fast moving enemies. There's also a special version of nearly ever gun. It wouldn't hurt to research their locations early on to capitalize off them.
- Stop and enjoy the scenery...or at least what's left of it. Fallout 3 is a beautiful game in its own way. |
ROBOKATZ
Marine
July 29th, 2009 @ 6:05AM
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| I beat this a while back and recently came back to play the DLC. There is a lot of good advice here so I`ll just add a few observations that I`ve made.
If you`re going to min/max, you MUST max the difficulty, otherwise your character quickly becomes uber-powerful and you will get bored. The mods mentioned earlier might help with this too.
While small arms are great early on, energy weapons and ammo do become really common towards the end and everywhere in the broken steel add-on, while small arms ammo becomes scarce, so they are useful. Of course if you maxed intelligence early, you should have no problem maxing both small and energy weapons; just do small arms first.
I`ll echo the importance of the dart gun, especially on max difficulty. Without it, the deathclaws will be able to run up to you and 2-hit you as soon as (if?) they spot you. You should have no problem with ammo; I use it all the time and have 1400+ darts. You only need 1 per enemy. |
covact
Baron
July 29th, 2009 @ 9:26AM
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| Forgot to mention, the first time I played I too got scared. I was playing real late and everyone in the house was a sleep and I had the lights out. I didn't know what to expect, so when I went through the school building close to Megaton I got scared also. Then I went to the subway and the stupid ghouls coming out of now where did a good number on me. Once you get used to it, it becomes more annoying than anything. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
July 29th, 2009 @ 12:11PM
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| That school building scared the shit out of me. Same with the Police station. haha. |
bomberman
Marine
July 29th, 2009 @ 7:15PM
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Texas
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| Those ghouls creeped me out too. Especially in the subways. |
bschultz
Special Ops
July 29th, 2009 @ 9:41PM
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| man wait until you actually start visiting vaults and exploring buildings in DC proper. |
Bruiser
Marine
July 30th, 2009 @ 6:51AM
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| If you want to talk about scary, try the Dunwich Building in the extreme southeast of the map, well southeast of even Tenpenny Tower. That place is a trip. Of course, if you have the Ghoul Mask, it makes it really easy - even if you have the ghoul mask, don`t wear it for Dunwich Building, I`d hate to miss the fun of getting the full experience out of that place. Way, way scarier than subways.
I`ve heard that that location is actually a kind of test prototype for a potential Oblivion horror game, but no idea whether that`s even remotely accurate.
Just to offer again, I have no idea how any of you would get/give me your e-mail, but if anybody else wants my spreadsheet feel free to let me know. |
covact
Baron
July 30th, 2009 @ 7:30AM
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| whats the name of that one vault where theres like ghost things or its a flash back or something. Man that creep ed me out at first. At least till I figured out what it was supposed to be then it was just funny. Something about clones. |
Blazer
Instigator
July 30th, 2009 @ 7:40AM
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| You guys saying Fallout is a scary game are wussies. Disturbing, maybe. If you want scary try playing Dead Space without the lights on and headphones. |
DeuceOfSpades
Kali Compton
July 30th, 2009 @ 1:38PM
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| Bobbleheads? Skill books?
Come on guys. The very first thing I did after installing the game on my PC was download mods to disable the skill gains from those things. What's the fun of having 100 in every skill? |
HappySmurf
Marine
July 30th, 2009 @ 7:02PM
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Virginia (As conservative as California is Liberal)
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| I live in the DC area and many of the locations are familiar to me. I`ll admit I squealed like a little girl (you know, in a totally manly way) when I stumbled into the city of Fairfax (where I live). Of course, then I yelled "oh shit" when I was smashed in the face with a rocket and assaulted by about 8 bandits with assault rifles and rocket launchers.
Also, I |
Bruiser
Marine
July 31st, 2009 @ 5:54AM
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| @Deuce:
It`s great that this is a game that can be enjoyed in many ways. For some of us, or at least for me, getting to 100 IS the fun part. I get more fun out of character planning / skill building than out of actually playing the game, which is why similar games without skills, etc., don`t hold any interest to me.
Basically, though, I`m of the opinion that telling somebody that they`re having fun the wrong way is poor form. |
nate_orenstam
Special Ops
July 31st, 2009 @ 2:26PM
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| i got the survival edition. whoever told you the clock runs out of batteries in one day is on crack. mine ran for at least three days.
i'm worried about happysmurf's aborted transmission. i hope the black helicopters didn't land in his yard. |
HappySmurf
Marine
July 31st, 2009 @ 4:18PM
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| I managed to escape from the helicopter. I had said I heart Lincoln`s Repeater, but for whatever reason making the heart symbol thingy didn`t work.
The repeater takes the .44 magnum ammo which is a bit rare so be sure to buy it off any vendor you see selling it whenever you see it. From what I read it`s also the only "small" gun that fires exactly where the cross hair is pointing (when not using VATS). |
WatchingThursday
Peon
July 31st, 2009 @ 5:11PM
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Oregon
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| Fun things to do in Fallout:
Pickpocket an NPC, put a frag mine in their inventory. Boom! Maxing explosives and sneak adds a lot of fun to the game.
Visit Evergreen Mills.
When an opponent is about to throw a frag grenade, enter VATS and shoot the nade.
Enslave the kid from Grayditch. Listening to what 3-dog has to say is priceless.
Bloody mess perc + unarmed + Fisto power fist
Get a slower leveling mod and max the difficulty, as the end game is just too easy otherwise.
Gatling laser
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DeuceOfSpades
Kali Compton
July 31st, 2009 @ 8:45PM
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| I had a 2x slower leveling mod, and by the time I finished the mainquest along with every marked sidequest (the ones that appear in your pip boy) and about 1/2 of the unmarked sidequests, I was only level 14 (and I killed pretty much every monster I saw). I had about 30 hours /played at this point. If I play the game again, I will be taking that mod off.
@ Bruiser: you can still plan your character if skillbooks and bobbleheads are disabled :P skill points are scarce. You'll have to pardon my elitist gaming ego, but I'm not the Monty Haul type of gamer.
Nebu, I highly recommend you do the Tenpenny Tower questline. :) |
what316
Shithead
August 1st, 2009 @ 1:06PM
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| i think im gonna have to get a guide to really get back into it again. |
cobsteele02
Marine
August 1st, 2009 @ 10:35PM
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| I purchased this tonight as well. I am about 3 hours into it, having alot of fun. I already turned Megaton into a crater mwhahaha |
DeuceOfSpades
Kali Compton
August 3rd, 2009 @ 8:12PM
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| The music is from the 40s.
Also, some of the quests have different endings... do not read ahead! Use the guide to find quests, but not to spoil anything beyond that. A couple of quest lines have very different (and often hilarious) consequences depending on how you approach them ;) |
Istari
Kali Compton
August 3rd, 2009 @ 8:46PM
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| Am I the only one who disliked these Oblivion/Fallout 3 games?
I'm glad you're enjoying Fallout 3. It took everything I had to beat it =0. I couldn't even finish Oblivion it was so dry and monotonous. If not for the combat system in Fallout 3, I don't think I would've beaten it. I'd gladly sacrifice the game's ton of the same old side quests for a more rich engrossing story and more unique puzzles/combat/npcs etc. The games almost feel like single player MMOs. I expect more from single player games, not the boring grind. Oh wow its Super Mutant/Ghoul/Zombie/Human number 539 that looks and behaves pretty much like all the others, never seen that before! It got to a point where sometimes I'd just blow up an NPC and move on because I couldn't take it anymore. I didn't really give a crap unless it prevented from doing the main quest line.
Ok done with my rant. =]
Edit: Also I can't believe this game scares people haha. If this scares you, I wouldn't recommend playing something like Fear/Fear2.
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Bruiser
Marine
August 4th, 2009 @ 5:26AM
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| GF Said: The time line is really bugging me though. If it`s been 200 years, how is this food still good. Shouldn`t the skeletons be gone by then?
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Well about the food, one mental twist about the setting I didn`t pick up at first. It`s a future apocalypse as portrayed/popularly envisioned in 50s pop culture. I actually thought the `big war` had happened in the 50s until I realized that.
So in the 50s they had all these big ideas for how nuclear *stuff* would influence the future, such as irradiated food that lasts forever, cars that run on atomic energy that never need filling, etc. So that`s why the food lasts forever - because in the 50s they speculated that in the future we might be able to treat food in such a fashion that it never went bad.
That might have been obvious to everybody but me, though. |
cobsteele02
Marine
August 4th, 2009 @ 7:19AM
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| Fallout 3 has taken over my dreams too. |
psudo
Marine
August 4th, 2009 @ 9:55AM
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| "If it`s been 200 years [...] Shouldn`t the skeletons be gone by then?"
It depends.
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DeuceOfSpades
Kali Compton
August 14th, 2009 @ 1:28PM
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| Wait a second... you're playing the Xbox version? |
Canadia142
Marine
August 16th, 2009 @ 10:27AM
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| PC is how to fucking play the game! Screw the 360. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
August 16th, 2009 @ 11:24AM
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| PC has no achievements. Your time is wasted. But I do like mods though. Oh well. |
DeuceOfSpades
Kali Compton
August 16th, 2009 @ 12:34PM
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| Achievements on the Xbox are just as meaningless.
A friend of mine had the 360 version, sold it, bought the PC version, and is glad as hell he did. You can do that too. And have sound! :) |
LaGG
Peon v2.0
August 16th, 2009 @ 2:28PM
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| http://www.mobilewhack.com/reviews/Picture%20026%20%28Small%29.jpg
is it possible that there's something stuck holding the optical connection open? I don't know how the TOSLINK cable and connection works in regards to connection establishment, but it seems reasonable that if something was plugged in, or if the xbox thought something was plugged in, the xbox would assume you wanted to use digital audio.
I would just go buy the cable at this point.
...well sh*t I thought they were going to be like $50 just go buy one.
one more for good measure
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Blazer
Instigator
August 16th, 2009 @ 2:51PM
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| # Pre-War Books
These are pretty common but can be difficult to find, because damaged books are so prevalant and they're easy to confuse without a sharp eye. The reward is worth it tho for an easy $100 a book with a quick fast travel.
# Nuke-A-Cola Quantum (30) (I was drinking them)
There's plenty of these scattered throughout the wasteland, and occasionally you can even buy one from a vendor.
*spoiler*
One you obtain 30 of these you get a blueprint for nuka grenades which are godly. If you get the chance to buy a second blueprint do so because it improves the original, allowing you to create two.
# Scrap Metal
Don't bother...the reward isn't worth the weight.
# Holo-tags from Brothers
You get $100 for these, the same price as pre-war books.
# Lunchbox, Cherry Bombs
Keep an eye out for these. Eventually you'll find a blueprint for a bottle cap mine which is very strong. |
bschultz
Special Ops
August 16th, 2009 @ 3:07PM
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| Nebu the PC DOES have acheivements.
pc version runs windows live and is linked with your xbox live account. |
Magus
Kali Compton
August 16th, 2009 @ 7:36PM
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| The PC version is the superior version of the game. It is a Games of Windows Live title.
Also know that Fallout 3 PC and Fallout 3 360 both have different achievement pages on your gamertag.
Enjoy the game not the achievements. Comments like your time being wasted when there are no achievements makes me sad. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
August 16th, 2009 @ 9:08PM
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| Normally I'm ok about PC but XBOX360 is still fine. I'd rather play it on my XBOX360. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
August 17th, 2009 @ 10:06AM
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| I've got about 24 hours played on the XBOX 360 version this vacation. I'd never have that if I got the pc version.
All I care about is achievements. You can put achievements on the PC version like they do on Steam but I only care about Blizzard Achievements and XBOX360 achievements. Every game is adding achievements now but who cares. If you played a lot of steam games, then maybe the achievements on their system would matter, but personally I'm not playing anything on there. |
Magus
Kali Compton
August 17th, 2009 @ 10:34PM
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| Fallout 3 PC has XBOX360 Achievements. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
August 17th, 2009 @ 11:26PM
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| PC has 360 achievements? No way. Someone shoulda told me. But yet again, I would have not got to pay last 25 hours of gaming over the last week with the PC version. I suppose I could have maybe got it running on the laptop and transferred a save over or something. |
Magus
Kali Compton
August 18th, 2009 @ 2:36PM
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| Also Fallout 3 PC and Fallout 3 360 have different achievement pages on the xbox360. So you can get double the achievement points if you really wanted to. |
Istari
Kali Compton
August 19th, 2009 @ 5:53AM
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| Always go PC version for the mods :p
I think the DLC stuff changes it so the game does not end. I stopped playing it though so I don't know first hand, but I think I read that.
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DeuceOfSpades
Kali Compton
August 19th, 2009 @ 4:35PM
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| The third DLC (downloadable content expansion) allows you to continue to play the game after you finish the main quest. That DLC also raises the level cap to 30.
Of course, you could have also played the PC version from the start and downloaded the "free play after main quest" mod. :) |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
August 22nd, 2009 @ 12:09AM
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| I also wish someone woulda have said which addon adds level 30. Cuz I played a while at level 20 before getting it. |
Bruiser
Marine
August 27th, 2009 @ 5:39AM
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| I hear you on the playing at level 20. My first time through I did EVERYTHING in the game. Then I heard that BS let you go to 30, so I started over from scratch, got to level 20, and stopped immediately for the same reason.
That said, I wouldn`t worry about it too much. You`re still going to get to L30 in this playthrough, so it`s not like it really matters in the long run. |
nate_orenstam
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August 27th, 2009 @ 10:48AM
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| when you say combat in the final mission you're talking about the nuke-football-throwing robot thing? i have to say i thought that was pretty mediocre. |
Nebuchadnezzar
The King
August 27th, 2009 @ 12:37PM
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| I thought it was awesome. It wasn't challenging or anything but the robot and his voices and lines are super cool. |
nate_orenstam
Special Ops
August 28th, 2009 @ 10:25AM
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| yeah thats what i mean. it was a slightly interactive cutscene, not combat. |
hjparcins
General
September 8th, 2009 @ 9:21PM
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| Anyone have a list of suggested mods? That work well together?
I beat this game right when it came out with the intention of coming back once the mod community developed and redoing it the way it should have been done to start with (a la Oblivion).
I know about MMM, but what about the major, incompatible revamps? Like FOOK or Wanderer's edition? Any must haves? |
bschultz
Special Ops
October 23rd, 2009 @ 7:22AM
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| It stopped feeling scary the second I got power armor and was one shotting dudes. |
DeuceOfSpades
Kali Compton
October 25th, 2009 @ 12:12AM
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| Look at my mods list at the top of this thread, hj. |
Frimzy
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February 24th, 2010 @ 2:49PM
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| A lot of the original Fallout gamers are the one that care that Fallout 3 was so different. Imagine Blizzard selling the rights to Fallout Diablo and some other developer turns it into an Anime-based FPS. How would you feel? |
Trainwreck
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| Well, I wouldn`t say it`s quite the same, Frimzy. My first (and only) Fallout game was Fallout 3, but from what I`ve seen and watched and read, it`s pretty consistent with the look, feel, and overall aim of the originals. With out vastly improved technology, it would`ve been a mistake to keep the isometric view in my opinion. |
hjparcins
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February 25th, 2010 @ 4:08PM
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| Diablo is keeping the isometric view.
I actually miss games like that. Nowadays everything is "FIRST PERSON OR GO HOME!" which is getting tedious.
Hell, Dragon Age is isometric too. They could have easily taken Fallout 3 and made it the same way but with updated graphics and new story. Really Bethesda just wanted to make 'Future Oblivion', which they did.
I enjoyed Fallout 3, but it definitely isn't going to make my list of best games ever like Fallout 1 and 2 have. In retrospect I wish Bethesda just made their own IP for a future-Elder Scrolls game instead of pushing the Fallout IP in this direction. |
Istari
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April 9th, 2010 @ 7:21PM
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| Seeing Fallout 3 around still is like walking into a restroom and seeing crap still in a toilet. |
DeuceOfSpades
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| This is an entirely new game, not an expansion for Fallout 3. :) |
undreaming
Kali Compton
May 1st, 2010 @ 12:43PM
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| Fallout 3 was a huge disappointment to me. Will they ever make anything as EPIC! as Fallout 1 or Fallout 2? It`s like they`ve forgotten how to make good games anymore. :(
I`m just waiting for SCII to come out now. I still hope for Kerrigan`s redemption. |
Disastrous Fate
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June 7th, 2010 @ 6:33PM
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| "A lot of the original Fallout gamers are the one that care that Fallout 3 was so different. Imagine Blizzard selling the rights to Fallout Diablo and some other developer turns it into an Anime-based FPS. How would you feel?"
1. Not all original gamers hate on the new ones. I beat Fallout, played most of Fallout 2, and beat Fallout 3. I didn`t bother playing the other crap, except for a little demo of the Tactics one. It wasn`t very good.
2. The company that owned Fallout, Interplay, isn`t really even a company anymore. The company pretty much died 7 years ago. The remnants are just milking anything they had from the good old days. The original developers of Fallout are NOT PART OF INTERPLAY.
3. The original developers of Fallout, Black Isle Studios, however did survive, in a way. They went on to form Obsidian.. which is developing the new Fallout NV game. The new Fallout has more claim to legitimacy than anything Interplay could ever create with the Fallout name.
4. Bethesda, which created Fallout 3 proper, is a damned good developers and still created a better game than anything Interplay would`ve made.
So, let`s structure an actual comparison. Let`s say that, when Roper and them left (Flagship Studios), they left with more people than they even did IRL. Let`s say Blizzard went bankrupt meanwhile and essentially had no talent or resources left. After selling Diablo to a third player, the third player then hires Roper and company to create Diablo 4. That`s the actual comparison.. and, by God, I`m down with it.
Sure, there`s a change in genre, and I understand the problem there. Still, the change in genre is probably less pronounced than purists argue. Also, the rest of the context is just not comparable at all. There was NEVER going to be a Fallout 3 like the purists want. If you don`t like the new ones, then treat them as a new series. A new series with the same old themes and the same old developers.... |
Wibin
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June 8th, 2010 @ 10:09AM
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| I got the Pitt and one of the other downloadable contents.
It adds some new zombies in the game too. Some reaver type zombie, takes a good 3 or 4 clips to kill without VATS. Thats with Fawks shooting it too. |
Nebuchadnezzar
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June 11th, 2010 @ 11:57AM
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| The Pitt was way too short. |
Blazer
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June 14th, 2010 @ 6:26PM
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| New Vegas is definitely on my agenda for 2010.
p.s. Your Fallout shrine is awesome!
EDITED: 2010-06-30 14:32:55 |
bshido
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June 30th, 2010 @ 1:59PM
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| WoW haha that looks so great |
undreaming
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October 19th, 2010 @ 5:57AM
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| I`m not a purist, but I liked the subtle humor in the original Fallout series. That seemed to have gone missing when F3 came out.
It was just bleak, depressing, and post-apocalyptic. Sure, that`s what the environment was, but if I wanted to get more of that I`d play S.T.A.L.K.E.R again.
3rd person view of the original games was great, they just don`t have these kind of games anymore. The story was better thought through and carried out too.
Just my 2c. |
Disastrous Fate
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October 23rd, 2010 @ 11:09AM
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| I`ve been playing Fallout NV a lot lately. If you like Fallout 3, go get it. If you didn`t, then don`t buy it. It`s essentially that simple. There are a number of improvements, etc., but, chances are, none of them will matter for most people. |
Disastrous Fate
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October 23rd, 2010 @ 2:55PM
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| "3rd person view of the original games was great, they just don`t have these kind of games anymore. The story was better thought through and carried out too."
You might want to check out Dragon Age Origins if you miss the classic method of control. DAO typically hangs over shoulder, but you can adjust it so that you have a de facto classic camera angle. |
Surelog
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October 23rd, 2010 @ 8:29PM
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| Well we can see Frimzy was completely wrong. New Vegas is basically Fall out 3 with hard core mode. |
Bruiser
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October 25th, 2010 @ 5:40AM
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| Hey Nebu - Think you and a some of the other guys at your work liked my spreadsheet from last time? Let me know (anybody else is welcome too) if you want me to send the one for NV when I`m done with it. Might take another week or two, we had our 2nd baby last Tuesday - not great timing for playing games! |
Disastrous Fate
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| I also submitted the following as news just because I`m sick of Frimzy`s stupid post.
I want to make the case, briefly, that Obsidian Entertainment and Bethesda have more right to make a Fallout game than Interplay.
Let`s start with a list of major figures in Fallout:
First, there`s Wasteland, which is what Fallout was based on. It was designed by:
Michael Stackpole, Alan Pavlish, Brian Fargo, and Ken St. Andre. Of these guys, only Brian Fargo is still in the business. He Runs inXile, which is working with Bethesda.
Second, Fallout. It was designed by:
Tim Cain - Currently with NCSoft, kinda fell off the face of the planet
Leonard Boyarsky - Currently with Blizz, working on D3
Christopher Taylor - This is Interplay`s only potential claim to legitimacy. He has supposedly signed on to help design Interplay FO MMORPG, but there is very little info on this.
Third, Fallout 2. It was designed by:
Feargus Urquhart - Currently with Obsidian, deeply involved with Fallout New Vegas
Chris Avellone - Currently with Obsidian, senior designer for Fallout New Vegas
Matt Norton - Sorta fell of the Earth, although apparently worked at Blizz briefly
Fourth, Original Interplay Fallout 3 aka Van Buren. Pre-cancellation, designed by:
Chris Avellone - As noted above, senior designer for Fallout New Vegas
Josh Sawyer - Currently with Obsidian, project director for Fallout New Vegas
Also, Black Isle Studios, which made Fallout 1 and 2.. well most of it`s membership went on to form Obsidian Entertainment. So, even below the top ranks, most of the talent that made FO great worked on FO NV. Obviously, not everybody, but this is probably the most concentrated wealth of FO talent left.
So, it would be like Blizz selling the rights to develop Diablo 3 to Blizzard North, if BN had split off before being closed and was now a separate company. |
Blazer
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February 7th, 2011 @ 10:09PM
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| Just recently beat New Vegas with roughly 100 hours played. It's a fine game...you'll love it.
Tips? Consider investing in speech. It's worth a lot more this time around it seems. Oh, and if you locate an anti-material rifle USE IT! |
Constrictor
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February 8th, 2011 @ 6:33AM
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| I just beat New Vegas last night. Took about 60 hours played or so.
You can probably pick two weapon skills to max out. I did guns and energy weapons, but you can get away with just guns or just energy weapons. There are stupidly powerful guns in either category.
Next time I'll probably do the 'ninja' build with melee weapons and explosives.
Speech is very important. I would say every character should have at least 50 points in it. |
GroverDill
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February 15th, 2011 @ 1:34PM
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| New Vegas got a lot easier for me when I got Boone in my party and started using a sniper rifle with armor piercing/hollow point ammo for the really tough enemies (especially deathclaws). |
redgeopower
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February 16th, 2011 @ 7:18AM
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| Keep a lookout for the pajamas that give you +10 to speech. that couple with a `making friends` magazine can get you through many situations. |
Disastrous Fate
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February 17th, 2011 @ 3:14PM
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| The game gets a lot easier when you`re like 1/3rd of the way into it. I mean, there`s this point where you start getting like mid-tier weapons and armor and stuff really doesn`t kill you anymore
Except for Deathclaws. Deathclaws are still freaky in the end-game, and they`ll pretty much just destroy you before then. |
CRockwell
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February 21st, 2011 @ 6:18PM
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| you really should up the difficulty when you get companions, maybe up it again if you got 2 |
redgeopower
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February 21st, 2011 @ 7:53PM
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| Just finished. I am drained. Good game and I intend to play it over again with melee skill or something else.
My son made a luck character, they kicked him out of a casino after he hit the jackpot too big. |
Blazer
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February 24th, 2011 @ 5:31AM
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| Oh dude, I murdered the white glove society as soon as I met them and got wind of something "fishy" going on in the basement. Ended up allying with the legion because it was tied to a bunch of achievements, and now I'm going back to a previous save to choose a different path. |
Nebuchadnezzar
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February 25th, 2011 @ 1:55PM
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| I got all of the achievements previously but I think this time I finally don't care. I have 24,000 gamer score. |
Blazer
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February 28th, 2011 @ 5:12PM
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| By the way, I should note Fallout New Vegas was one of the most immersive games I've played in a long time. All the background noise and ambiance really add to the mood of whatever party you're affiliating yourself with, and you can help feel yourself get involved with the various characters. When you're walking around Ceasars camp you truly feel like you're dealing with evil people. |
Wibin
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March 24th, 2011 @ 1:03PM
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| PC was the way to go on Fall out.
Without VATS, its so hard on xbox. Still playable, but I wouldn't think as fun.
DLC was available for 360 before PC on new vegas though.
I really enjoyed new vegas, and they left lots of space for expansions compared to fallout 3.
3 was great and I had lots of fun.
New vegas was not exactly what I expected. some of the quests were kinda cheezy. Some of them were super fun.
Final asault on the damn was interesing. I bugged it out the first time on the PC.
I saved the president, then did something else, and it set the save the president quest again, but it was bugged out.
my closest non quicksave before that was like 10 hours. |
ReaverSC
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March 24th, 2011 @ 3:25PM
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| PC is ALWAYS the way to go for any games that come from Bethesda. I still play Oblivion after all these years only because of the tremendous support that`s offered. Among the things I`ve added to make an already great game even greater are:
- Natural environments (there`s butterflies and birds floating around the world the sun glares realistically when you look directly at it.
- Saddle bags for my horses to carry my items
- New weapons and armor.
- Brand new UI (the stock one is horrid and was designed for X-box 360/PS3).
- Companions (Quest in groups!)
- Herb mod (Herbs/plants did not disappear when you picked them so you wouldn`t know what you had picked up already
- Companions (quest in groups, I even have a maid for my castle).
- Nude mod (Don`t judge me). |
Wibin
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March 25th, 2011 @ 8:01AM
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| I saw somebody post about the dunwich building way up somewhere in the middle.
There is a book you can find in Fallout 3 that you take into the building and give to the spire in the basement.
I found it on my first go though of the game, but have not seen it sense.
I hate that about games, how you just easily find stuff the first time, then can never find it again.
I lost my oblivion CD. I have the add on packs, but my install is missing. I never did finish it. I got the saves though.
Didnt' have any luck with the player update. |
