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TheSilver_Ghost is awesome.
May 2nd, 2012 @ 7:25AM
Registered: 2003-03-25 Location: wisconsin, USA Posts: 1066
| The waterpark link left out the best damn waterpark in the country, being Noah's Ark, although they mentioned two of the other waterparks in Wisconsin Dells.
There's seriously like a square mile of freaking water parks in that city. Every park in that list that is in Wisconsin is within a mile of each other. It's kind of ridiculous. |
Charkoth Right Wing Extremist
May 2nd, 2012 @ 5:59PM
Registered: 2003-05-08 Location: OHIO Posts: 2199
| I detect the Mass Effect 3 themesong in that Galaxy S III release trailer. |
Trickshot Peon
May 2nd, 2012 @ 6:22PM
Registered: 2006-10-22 Location: Lansing, Michigan Posts: 353
| Coca-Cola is still used to make cocaine. |
killer6600 Marine
May 3rd, 2012 @ 6:43PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| do your part in the war on drugs....drink pepsi? |
BiVRiP General
May 4th, 2012 @ 1:49PM
Registered: 2003-05-11 Location: Canada Posts: 1879
| The first Expendables movie wasn't as great as I'd hoped it to be but the trailer for the sequel has me hooked. Chuck Norris!! |
Bashkir Special Ops
May 8th, 2012 @ 4:13PM
Registered: 2003-04-30 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 181
| F*ck everything...save the environment!!! |
killer6600 Marine
May 8th, 2012 @ 6:13PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| star wars old republic....another pretender to the throne falls off quickly
maybe they'll say hi to warhammer, age of conan and dc universe |
TheSilver_Ghost is awesome.
May 8th, 2012 @ 6:45PM
Registered: 2003-03-25 Location: wisconsin, USA Posts: 1066
| Yeah, myself and a lot of others said repeatedly that ToR would gather a large userbase for its first (free) month, and then it would quickly die. Well.
And hot damn Avengers was actually a decent film. |
Disastrous Fate General
May 9th, 2012 @ 8:05AM
Registered: 2004-02-09 Location: Posts: 1012
| "The first Expendables movie wasn't as great as I'd hoped it to be but the trailer for the sequel has me hooked. Chuck Norris!!"
Yeah, it actually sucked ass. Don't get me wrong.. I enjoyed laughing at it quite a bit. It actually increased my interest in the sequel, as now I know they're basically unintentional comedies. Seriously though. TERRIBLE
I honestly think it had the worst acting of Sly's career. It seemed like he was half asleep in his scenes. His face also looks painted on and all messed up. Hell, as sad as it sounds, Jason Statham basically carried that movie, despite being an obnoxious little bastard like usual. Mickey Rourke's scene was amazing, if only for reminding us all what acting actually looks like.
Still, it was HILARIOUS. I laughed my ass of the whole time. I might actually see the sequel in theaters just in the hopes of more unintentional comedy. |
Smokin Joe Marine
May 11th, 2012 @ 12:44PM
Registered: 2006-06-10 Location: The Land of Chocolate Posts: 2240
| Bill Clinton never has had to deal with social media and these profit-driven 'news' outlets like Barack Obama has.
Those tools really make it hard to compare any high-profile figure from even just the 90s to nowadays. And I'm talkin about anyone, from athletes, to rich people, to celebrities - anyone with any high amount of fame. |
Disastrous Fate General
May 11th, 2012 @ 12:45PM
Registered: 2004-02-09 Location: Posts: 1012
| "FLASHBACK: Obama's Sordid High School Past..."
So smoking pot is worse than treating people like shit? Give me a fucking break. In any case, if smoking pot takes you out of the running, goodbye Dubya and goodbye Clinton. There are probably a lot of other notable goodbyes, but I think that should put things into perspective. |
Disastrous Fate General
May 12th, 2012 @ 6:34PM
Registered: 2004-02-09 Location: Posts: 1012
| "Fire all these cops giving speeding tickets. " - The thing is, they pay for themselves. |
RowdyRoddyPiper Nut Job
May 14th, 2012 @ 7:35AM
Registered: 2003-06-20 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 1672
| on the subject of john travolta masseur. its most likely true that john travolta did that...big ole closet gayfer. These masseurs wouldnt risk their livelihood and career on making such a bold statement unless it was true. because any other clients they have would likely stop seeing them and they wouldnt get new clients if it was known the masseur lies and claims customers are trying to touch their junk. So i believe it by this idea alone. Sure they could just be doing it to try and sue and get insta money from travolta but the chances of actually winning that lawsuit would be risky if it was completely made up and risking their career on a gamble.
...that and the fact travolta is a scientologist. so hes already a kook |
DeuceOfSpades Kali Compton
May 14th, 2012 @ 9:39AM
Registered: 2003-04-12 Location: Posts: 3180
| "12 months" caption does not tell the whole story. |
killer6600 Marine
May 14th, 2012 @ 2:49PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| RRP calling someone a kook....classic
also people risk their jobs/lives all the time, sue, get a quiet settlement for a million bucks and call it a life just because celebrities pay for things to go away all the time
also, maybe he wanted to leave the church and they started all this to get back at him/keep him in line? |
killer6600 Marine
May 18th, 2012 @ 5:17PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| while i think 9/11 did give a lot of people cancer, to be a life long smoker and hang drapes in your dressing rooms to catch dust while you're a smoker and die of lung cancer i feel you lose the ability to definitly say 9/11 gave you cancer |
SourGrapes Peon
May 20th, 2012 @ 12:42AM
Registered: 2006-06-01 Location: Posts: 132
| Kind of saw Jackie not doing action movies anymore. He said a few years ago he wanted to do more than that and now he`s done Shinjuku Incident and Karate Kid. Just too old now I guess haha. |
Gotcha General
May 20th, 2012 @ 8:32PM
Registered: 2003-03-25 Location: Posts: 139
| Not "Stayin Alive"... |
Charkoth Right Wing Extremist
May 21st, 2012 @ 7:27AM
Registered: 2003-05-08 Location: OHIO Posts: 2199
| Few people who aren't black thought Trayvon was a victim. The media has always pandered to blacks before Latinos and anyone before whites. I loved all the photos of him as a kid instead of more recent photos that showed how he really appeared.
The irony of all of this is that blacks are the most racist people in this country. One only need look at the 2008 election results for evidence.
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BlueFalcon Word To Your Mom
May 21st, 2012 @ 7:48AM
Registered: 2003-04-27 Location: Filth-a-delphia Posts: 1288
| I predict 15 additional replies to Charkoth's comments, haha.
As for the Zimmerman / Martin case, I think they are going to have a tough time getting the 2nd degree murder conviction. The initial police investigation that pointed to manslaughter charges was probably spot on. It's a real gray situation. Zimmerman was acting outside the law, but he was about to get his ass royally beat (through a confrontation he more or less provoked). Martin was no angel, but I don't think he was out looking for trouble. A manslaughter charge would have been a slam dunk, but going for Murder 2 is a case of the prosecutors playing to the public. When the verdict comes back as not guilty, there's going to be a sale on flat screen TVs nationwide (if you know what I mean...). The smart inner city electronics stores will go ahead and get their plywood now. |
Charkoth Right Wing Extremist
May 21st, 2012 @ 6:41PM
Registered: 2003-05-08 Location: OHIO Posts: 2199
| The messed up thing is blacks get killed every day in almost every major city in this country. What makes this case so special? The media hype is the only thing that sets this apart from so many other cases.
I don't think they even have a manslaughter case although there is a chance he'd have been convicted for it. If someone attacks you, regardless of whether or you're following them, you're in your rights to defend yourself. When they start slamming your head into the concrete if you're packing you let loose.
It just burns me that there are so many more important black issues going on right now that need the attention of their leaders yet they continue to focus on this shit. What about the highest teen pregnancy rate in the country? The highest single mother rate? How about a guy in Tennessee with 33+ kids? There are so many core culture issues in the black community, this shooting is at the bottom of the pile when it comes to needing more attention. |
killer6600 Marine
May 21st, 2012 @ 7:39PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| its because it's easier to attack someone than look at yourself.
its easier to complain that someone stalked a kid because he was black and wearing a hoodie in the rain and started a fight with him that ended up with the kid dead (yes, following and getting out of the car and starting an arguement counts as starting a fight, just because you picked on someone tougher than you shouldn't mean you can then pull out your gun and kill them and claim self defence) than it is to increase condom usage and birth control knowledge in your own community, especially when there is an incredibly loud vocal movement in the entire country to not teach those things in the first place |
BiVRiP General
May 21st, 2012 @ 8:53PM
Registered: 2003-05-11 Location: Canada Posts: 1879
| I may have my facts mixed up with my another state, but I read somewhere that there is a stipulation within Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law that essentially nullifies that type of defense if you instigated the confrontation.
I think BF is right and that anything more than a manslaughter charge will be difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. |
killer6600 Marine
May 21st, 2012 @ 10:43PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| checking out wikipedia for degrees of murder under US law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_(United_States_law)#Degrees_of_murder_in_the_United_States
Second degree murder is a murder that is not premeditated or planned in advance.[6]
Voluntary manslaughter sometimes called a "Heat of Passion" murder, is any intentional killing that involved no prior intent to kill, and which was committed under such circumstances that would "cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed." Both this and second degree murder are committed on the spot, but the two differ in the magnitude of the circumstances surrounding the crime. For example, a bar fight that results in death would ordinarily constitute second degree murder. If that same bar fight stemmed from a discovery of infidelity, however, it may be mitigated to voluntary manslaughter
based on that i'd say that a charge of 2nd degree is more applicable than manslaughter, i dunno if thats how it works in florida as each state is different |
AggieSpirit Peon
May 22nd, 2012 @ 12:15AM
Registered: 2004-12-09 Location: Texas Posts: 251
| Mainstream media won`t complain about a high tech and liberal CEO of a high tech company making hundreds of millions of dollars, but oil company CEO`s be damned! |
Apricoth Kali Compton Girl
May 22nd, 2012 @ 4:37AM
Registered: 2003-06-14 Location: MN Posts: 1792
| I liked that Tom Cruise image. hahaha Good stuff. |
BlueFalcon Word To Your Mom
May 22nd, 2012 @ 7:36AM
Registered: 2003-04-27 Location: Filth-a-delphia Posts: 1288
| Florida Manslaughter provisions 782.07
(1) The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
The chapter 776 that is referenced is the justifiable use of force chapter.
Use of force by aggressor
776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
Based on what I've read, Manslaughter would definitely be available for use against Zimmerman. Of course, Manslaughter has the same issue as Murder in that Zimmerman can claim it was justifiable under the law. The difference is that a jury might develop more reasonable doubt in a Murder case than a Manslaughter case. The stakes are higher.
If you read 776.041(2)(a), you will see where Zimmerman's defense is probably headed. "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, even if you feel my client did provoke this altercation, you have to also weigh the evidence that he was in great fear of serious bodily injury or even death. This is what led to his regretable but necessary decision to employ his firearm..."
If this investigation were happening outside the public eye, I would bet most prosecutors would go for Manslaughter versus Murder (given the available facts). The reason this is a Murder case is because of racial and political motivation. There was such a hue and cry in the national media and among certain groups, that it led the special prosecutor to cave in and overcharge Zimmerman. Ultimately, this is going to lead to an even bigger blow up when Zimmerman gets a Not Guilty verdict. Then everyone can blame the jury, or the competency of the prosector, or the way the law is written.
I wonder if they are laying odds in Vegas on a Zimmerman not guilty outcome? I'd bet that line.
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killer6600 Marine
May 22nd, 2012 @ 6:16PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| thats some messed up law right there lol
"sir, i know i punched you in the face first, but when you punched me it hurt. i therefore, in good faith, withdraw from physical conduct and clearly indicate my intention to do so, please stop beating me up since it turns out i'm not as tough as i thought, thank you"
clearly SHOULD be found not guilty of murder 2 based on the letter of the law.
does anyone know if they can send the case to the jury where they're allowed to pick murder 2 or manslaughter? |
BiVRiP General
May 22nd, 2012 @ 9:52PM
Registered: 2003-05-11 Location: Canada Posts: 1879
| The jury can only debate on the charges that are brought against the accused. If the prosecutor doubles down and only goes for murder 2, than the choice before the jury is murder 2 or nothing. If the prosecutor is smart, he'll throw in the manslaughter charge so there is at least a decent chance of a conviction.
Disclaimer: My legal knowledge is based in no small part to the endless hours spent watching Law & Order :) |
killer6600 Marine
May 22nd, 2012 @ 10:30PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| yeah bivrip you see in law and order often the DA saying they wont include manslaughter trying to get the defendant to agree to a plea deal
for the major dc comic book character coming out as gay if it's someone like batman or superman it will be completely ridiculous, how could you take an 80 year old character created by people that are dead and then just decide they're gay to sell comic books? come up with your own 3rd rate comic book character and play up the gay angle on that, at least you'd be selling out your own crap and not a bastardized version of someone elses work |
Bluntdogg Marine
May 23rd, 2012 @ 8:40AM
Registered: 2003-03-27 Location: VA Posts: 63
| If there really is such a need to have a gay comic book character, might as well just go with Biclops.
http://simpsonswiki.net/w/images/thumb/1/17/Biclops.png/250px-Biclops.png |
JanMan Peon
May 25th, 2012 @ 2:40AM
Registered: 2005-02-20 Location: Edmonton Posts: 57
| re: plastic bag ban
Just keep a couple cloth bags in your trunk. It`s no big deal. They can take a lot more weight without breaking, and are easier to neatly pack things in. Plus there will be less garbage all over the place. |
killer6600 Marine
May 25th, 2012 @ 11:45AM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| we've had the no plastic bags for years here, only it's not no bags it's each bag costs 5 cents
the worst part i've found is that now you have to bag your own stuff, the cashiers and bag person if it's busy are non exsistant....so frustrating, even if you pay the 5 cents they don't bag stuff |
RowdyRoddyPiper Nut Job
May 28th, 2012 @ 4:24PM
Registered: 2003-06-20 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 1672
| speaking of gilbert godfried theres a funny clip from the howard stern show and they find out gilbert fakes his voice..he really has a normal dudes voice
fake hollywood is fake
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Charkoth Right Wing Extremist
May 28th, 2012 @ 6:28PM
Registered: 2003-05-08 Location: OHIO Posts: 2199
| Have to love how the common man suffers at the hands of liberal ideology. Plastic bag bans are about as sensible as banning the incandescent bulb. |
killer6600 Marine
May 28th, 2012 @ 7:18PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| why is banning the incandescent light bulb bad? |
RowdyRoddyPiper Nut Job
May 29th, 2012 @ 4:23AM
Registered: 2003-06-20 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 1672
| "why is banning the incandescent light bulb bad?"
Your friendly scum in government dont want you using incandescent for 2 main reasons. number one they want you using the highly dangerous mercury filled cfl bulbs. they love poisoning by mercury, all kinds of health problems from it. They know that these bulbs will be dropped and broken and the victim getting sick. They also just by having it on will cause depression, thats the mercury gas inside and whatever other naughty chemicals they got in it radiating thru the air. Again its govt and the medical industry teaming up to make customers. and of course they like a weak docile population easier to control...(just by lightbulbs you say??...yes any product we use on a daily or hourly basis is the target) ...and number 2 they have spying devices in the base of the cfl bulbs. yep they can actually listen to you and some have hidden cameras that can watch you.
they even have cameras and listening devices in the new appliances!
i believe its really all to find out where the guns are thats the main agenda of the power elite to disarm us. When you say to your wife "hey hon i hid the guns under the tiles here in the bathroom" or wherever else you have a clever hidden space. They will then know. of course a total gun ban is not in place here yet but it will be soon and they want their spy devices in place to get ready. imagine in every room a spy cam from big brother watching and listening.
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Charkoth Right Wing Extremist
May 29th, 2012 @ 7:12AM
Registered: 2003-05-08 Location: OHIO Posts: 2199
| Why? Because it is a cheap and environmentally friendly source of light and it has worked fine for two hundred years. What business or right does the government have in banning them? Sure they are inefficient....so are most of the parts in our computers yet they aren't banning those.
It is liberal ideology that is literally dimming the lights in this country....you have only look at North Korea to see the end result of that path.
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Smokin Joe Marine
May 29th, 2012 @ 1:22PM
Registered: 2006-06-10 Location: The Land of Chocolate Posts: 2240
| Have to love how the common man suffers at the hands of liberal ideology. Plastic bag bans are about as sensible as banning the incandescent bulb.
I dunno, maybe not banning outright, but charging more for their use/disposal. It'd motivate me to use my cloth bags more often (which are typically a lot easier to carry anyway).
It is liberal ideology that is literally dimming the lights in this country....you have only look at North Korea to see the end result of that path.
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killer6600 Marine
May 29th, 2012 @ 6:18PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| ok charkoth, how about we work on banning the shitty inefficient light bulbs that there are about 10+ in every house in america that need to get replaced at least 4 times a year, then when all that waste is delt with, we'll go to the couple parts in your computer and try to get better parts for that
the lightbulbs aren't cheaper, thats ridiculous thinking, yes you go and they are a couple dollars cheaper, but then they last 1/4 the time or worse, and use 5-10 times more energy than the good bulbs.
look at the whole price, not just the price on the tag
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not to mention the supply and demand side of the energy used by households....if all the house holds are made to use more efficient lightbulbs then in theory there would be less demand for energy and it would become cheaper
EDITED: 2012-05-29 18:23:02 |
Smokin Joe Marine
May 30th, 2012 @ 7:12AM
Registered: 2006-06-10 Location: The Land of Chocolate Posts: 2240
| The irony of all of this is that blacks are the most racist people in this country. One only need look at the 2008 election results for evidence.
Oh man, my sides.
That is a gem of a comment. |
Charkoth Right Wing Extremist
May 30th, 2012 @ 5:56PM
Registered: 2003-05-08 Location: OHIO Posts: 2199
| Killer,
Back when the ban was announced I bought like 40 100 watt incandescent bulbs, I've used maybe 4 or 5 of them in that time. Maybe instead we should just require lights off after 11PM or you pay a steep fine? Wouldn't that save the environment more than banning certain kinds of bulbs?
Why don't we also ban all fried food, smoking, and drugs. You have to look at the whole price not just the price tag you know?
The point I'm making is the government shouldn't be making basic decisions for us. Once we head far enough down that road they make EVERY decision for you.
Joe,
Government shouldn't need to "motivate" anyone to do anything. When the economics of a thing make sense, people tend to follow it. Look at how many people have been buying fuel efficient cars compared to SUVs and Trucks. There is nothing even WRONG with plastic bags...please don't mention the stupid garbage patch. People dumping trash into the sea instead of landfills isn't the fault of the trash....it is the people dumping into the sea.
That picture shows North Korea at night.
When people vote 95%+ for someone of their race in an election what else can you call it? Whites at least were what 48%+ for Obama? |
killer6600 Marine
May 30th, 2012 @ 9:16PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| so for 200+ years only white guy vs white guy elections weren't racist, black guy gets into the election and blacks vote for him like crazy and thats racist?
they do ban drugs (the wrong kind) they do tax the shit out of smoking to deter people from smoking.
but i think you may have got me to turn sides on this one
i think next week you and i should go to washington and tell those fat cats we're sick of all this god damn expensive unleaded gas...who are they to say we can't have lead in our gas?? |
Charkoth Right Wing Extremist
May 31st, 2012 @ 12:27PM
Registered: 2003-05-08 Location: OHIO Posts: 2199
| Voting for (or not for) someone because of their race is definitely racist yes. When given someone other than a white person to vote for, whites chose a black candidate in relatively equal numbers.
Incandescent light bulbs are not poisonous, they harm no one, they are simply inefficient and thus banning them is completely different than banning drugs, lead, or other substances that are harmful to others.
Hell florescent light bulbs have poisonous mercury in them and are much worse for the environment than incandescent bulbs ever were in that respect so there isn't even a valid argument to ban them other than an unfounded perception that is the root of this whole issue.
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Smokin Joe Marine
May 31st, 2012 @ 4:22PM
Registered: 2006-06-10 Location: The Land of Chocolate Posts: 2240
| When people vote 95%+ for someone of their race in an election what else can you call it? Whites at least were what 48%+ for Obama?
You need waaaaaaay more than a sourceless sentence to prove your original point, which is a generalization to begin with. People are racist, I don't believe any one race owns the market with that.
Government shouldn't need to "motivate" anyone to do anything.
They shouldn't, but have to in some situations because as a group, us humans are incredibly complacent and easily frightened. Just because you don't find yourself needing motivation for some things doesn't mean anyone else in the entire country feels the same way, that's the beauty of this country and others similar to it in the freedom of opinion. |
Charkoth Right Wing Extremist
June 1st, 2012 @ 7:46AM
Registered: 2003-05-08 Location: OHIO Posts: 2199
| "Proving" something on the internet is a futile effort. Are you questioning the 95%+ blacks voted for Obama statistic or my premise that the figure makes them racist?
"They shouldn't, but have to." WTF does that mean?
And are you seriously suggesting we don't have the freedom of choice now? Only Opinion? So if the majority of the country feels that anyone with over a million dollars in the bank should forfeit it for the well being of the rest of the country that is OK? Humankind is just a bunch of stupid sheep, and without the light of government to show them the way they they couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag right?
It is thoughts like those that make us gun-toting conservative "tea-baggers" so angry. Once again, the US is a REPUBLIC not a democracy. There is no mob rule. The RIGHTS of the INDIVIDUAL trump the WISHES OR WANTS of the MANY.
There is no evidence that the CHOICE of using incandescent bulbs harms anyone. We do far worse things every day that are not banned. It boils down to pure politics, not rational laws mean to protect anyone and the end result is the poor will pay the price at the expense of those position to reap the rewards of an unjust law (fluorescent companies and waste disposal companies). |
Charkoth Right Wing Extremist
June 1st, 2012 @ 7:51AM
Registered: 2003-05-08 Location: OHIO Posts: 2199
| Ohh, I'll also add that I just threw a 12" inch circular florescent light bulb in the trash this weekend. The use of that bulb was my choice as it is a ceiling hallway fixture and makes sense to use there. This is now the third time I've replaced that bulb in 7 years which is as many times as I've replaced any other bulb in my home. Not only do they not really last so much longer as liberals say, 99% of people are throwing them in the trash which is going into a landfill and will end up poisoning our ground water with mercury once everyone starts using them for all light sources. More genius liberal ideas to save mankind from ourselves! |
killer6600 Marine
June 1st, 2012 @ 6:10PM
Registered: 2007-06-16 Location: canada Posts: 1156
| hallway light....maybe it gets used more often?
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RowdyRoddyPiper Nut Job
June 1st, 2012 @ 6:26PM
Registered: 2003-06-20 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 1672
| Hot news from bilderberg 2012 is that they want to see ron paul killed in a plane crash. If it happens you know whos responsible!
they hate ron paul |